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What's Wrong With the Proposals for a New Guestworker Program?
F.A.I.R. ^ | 1/4/04 | F.A.I.R.

Posted on 01/08/2004 11:28:23 AM PST by libertylass

What's Wrong With the Proposals for a New Guestworker Program?

Proposals for a massive new "guestworker" program would:

threaten homeland security grant amnesty for law-breakers, a step overwhelmingly opposed by the American public establish a back door immigration program threaten the jobs and wages of American workers. The politicians pushing a guestworker amnesty know that Americans staunchly oppose amnesty, and so they shy away from calling it what it really is, instead cloaking it in terms like "earned legalization" or "normalization of status." They are deliberately misleading the American public.

THEY SAY that the overwhelming majority of people entering the country illegally pose no threat to our country and that if we allow them enter in a lawful manner, we will enhance our homeland security.

THE TRUTH is that there are an estimated 8-11 million illegal aliens in the United States, and it only took 19 to perpetrate the attacks of September 11. Our immigration system has become overburdened and unmanageable due to mass illegal immigration. As a result, there is little reason to feel confident that, absent a massive infusion of new resources, which is highly unlikely given current fiscal realities, anything approaching thorough background checks can be conducted on applicants for a guestworker program. Even without the added burden of an amnesty, people like Sheikh Omar Abdul Rahman, the blind Egyptian cleric who masterminded the first World Trade Center bombing, and Mohammed Atta, the leader of the September 11 attacks, managed to slip through the screening process. There is every reason to believe that adding new responsibilities to an overtaxed system will make us less safe.

No one has yet explained how the millions of applicants would be given security checks or whether that’s even remotely feasible, given an already overburdened immigration enforcement system. Immigration officials would have to deal with hundreds of thousands of more applicants a year, to say nothing of how we would verify eligibility for any of the eight million potential applicants already here illegally, particularly with many of them armed with false identity documents. When the immigration system can’t adequately perform its most essential mission, adding in the responsibility for security checks, tracking, and removal when necessary for millions of participants in a guestworker program will guarantee disaster.

THEY SAY that the legislation is not an amnesty, but that guestworkers who participate in the program will be eligible for permanent resident status.

THE TRUTH is that the proposal would be an amnesty with an “apprenticeship” provision. Illegal aliens who are already in the U.S. would be eligible to apply. Thus, they would be excused for having violated our immigration laws in the first place, and then be rewarded again with permanent residency--thus making the law, in effect, a double amnesty. Calling it something else does not change the reality that this proposal is a massive amnesty program.

THEY SAY the program will help regain control of the borders and stop illegal immigration.

THE TRUTH is that the proposal does nothing to discourage future illegal immigration or enforcement of our immigration laws, ensuring that any guestworker or illegal alien who wants to remain in the U.S. can and will. In fact, about one-third of illegal aliens in the country right now arrived on legal visas and simply never went home. In addition, it does nothing to strengthen border security to ensure that only guestworkers, and not terrorists, are being admitted.

THEY SAY that spouses and children of illegal aliens may also be eligible to participate in the visa program.

THE TRUTH is that this would be an amnesty not only for those who qualify for this “guestworker” program, but a simultaneous amnesty for their dependents, whether or not they are workers. Aside from expanding the amnesty to include non-workers, it also grants a benefit to the dependents of illegal aliens that is not afforded to the families of other guestworkers who never violated the law. Moreover, it undermines the stated – if flawed – purpose of a guestworker program: that foreign workers come temporarily and then return home. Employers would be able to utilize a virtually limitless supply of guestworkers at low wages, while the expense for services like education and health care for dependent family members would have to be picked up by taxpayers.

THEY SAY that an electronic job registry operated through the Department of Labor will allow employers to post jobs and American workers would have the first chance to apply. Moreover, the jobs would have to be offered again at the end of the three-year period, and that workers’ visas would be renewed only if no Americans are willing to take them.

THE TRUTH is that in the estimation of the General Accounting Office and former Labor Secretary Robert Reich, the provisions in existing guestworker programs that are intended to ensure that American workers get first crack at jobs have been a complete failure. Even if the political will existed to prevent employers from bypassing American workers in favor of foreign guestworkers – which there doesn’t – the Labor Department does not have the resources to monitor the hiring process. A federal government that managed to fine a grand total of 13 employers nationwide in 2002 for violating employer sanctions laws cannot be counted on to enforce the provisions of a guestworker program either.

THEY SAY that BSIIA would be a market-driven program that will negate the reasons why employers hire illegal aliens.

THE TRUTH is that under BSIIA, there would not even be a prevailing wage requirement, meaning that employers will be able to offer wages far below what most Americans would be willing to accept, thereby creating an artificial need for guestworkers. In effect, the law would grant legal sanction to employers who want to hire workers at low wages and limited leverage. One of the primary purposes of our immigration laws is to prevent employers from undermining wages and working conditions of American workers.

THEY SAY that the program would prevent abuse of foreign workers by affording them mobility and the ability to file grievances against abusive employers.

THE TRUTH is that the mobility of guestworkers would still be very limited and their ability to change jobs would depend on finding another employer who was willing to go through the procedure of posting a job and wading through the bureaucratic red tape. The primary interest of the workers would be to hold a job for six years in order to qualify for permanent residency. Moreover, at the end of the “apprenticeship” period, when the guestworker would be granted permanent residency and would gain bargaining power, there is no reason to expect that the employer would not seek another guestworker who is willing to work at below-market wages.

THEY SAY that the program would prevent deaths along the border.

THE TRUTH is that U.S. immigration laws are not responsible for the deaths along the border – it is the violation of our immigration laws that is responsible. If there is any culpability on the part of the American government, it is in its failure to deter illegal immigration by aggressively enforcing laws that prohibit illegal aliens from working here or accessing public benefits. Sending a clear signal that illegal entry to the U.S. will not be rewarded would have the desired effect of dissuading people from placing their lives and safety into the hands of unscrupulous smugglers. Besides, when the Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (BICE) adopted a measure that demonstrably cut down the likelihood of border deaths – by repatriating illegal alien crossers who were apprehended in Arizona to border towns in Texas – the open borders lobby protested, charging that the program was unfair to illegal aliens.

THEY SAY the program will provide workers when and while they’re needed.

THE TRUTH is that when the economy takes a downturn, there will be millions of guestworkers in the U.S. without a job, without a home, without health care, and with no intention of returning to their home countries. The guestworkers’ unemployment problems become the public’s burden.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; guestworker; guestworkerprogram; illegalimmigration
Enough said? I have seen how the border has been ignored in the miles of miles of undeveloped areas. There are not enough b.agents to go around and that's where illegals sneak in. Bush completely turned his head to the demands of the American people to close these gaps and will continue turn a deaf ear because V.Fox will not want a controlling policy of how much money gets sent back to Mexico. If he isn't willing to close those areas, as he has proven to us, what makes anyone think he will AFTER he's re-elected?

And who can actually believe that the illegals are going to go back to Mexico if they don't continue to prove they are working. Like Al Rantel said in his radio show last night....."If I lived in East Los Angeles, and worked my way into a place in Beverly Hills, I'll be darned if I'm going back to East L.A. without a fight." That's exactly what illegals will say.....I refuse to go back E.L.A. (Mexico).

The American people should be allowed to vote on this issue, plain and simple. Bush HAS no right to change the American culture for the future without our acceptance of this plan.

I have decided Bush does not get another of my votes in November. Period.

1 posted on 01/08/2004 11:28:24 AM PST by libertylass
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2 posted on 01/08/2004 11:30:15 AM PST by Support Free Republic (Hi Mom! Hi Dad!)
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To: libertylass
It's not an amnesty program. THIS is what I mean by hysterical HYPE. No sense trying to glean real information on an article that begins with a lie. And the only purpose of which is "VOTE THIRD PARTY OR NOT AT ALL (democrat) BECAUE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO!" Vote pandering by any other name is still vote pandering. Lying by any other name is lying.
3 posted on 01/08/2004 11:36:20 AM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: cake_crumb
It's not an amnesty program.

Yes it is. Blackbird.

4 posted on 01/08/2004 11:46:06 AM PST by BlackbirdSST
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To: cake_crumb
...and, it's not just amnesty for ILLEGAL CRIMINAL ALIENS, it's also amnesty for ILLEGAL CRIMINAL ALIEN hiring US Corporations. The lie is trying to say it isn't. Blackbird.
5 posted on 01/08/2004 11:48:44 AM PST by BlackbirdSST
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To: cake_crumb
It is pathetic political pandering by Bush. Sugar coating it will not work.
6 posted on 01/08/2004 11:50:56 AM PST by cynicom
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To: libertylass
Congress writes the legislation, not Bush. Get on the horn and complain to your senators and congressman.
7 posted on 01/08/2004 11:53:28 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (Freedom is a package deal - with it comes responsibilities and consequences.)
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To: libertylass
The govt is involved...therefore there will be what is intended on paper
and what it will be in reality...and what it will become under other administrations
Will be a whole differnt ball game...

It intends to register illegals making them quasi citizens with limited rights...

In reality its a very big camel's nose getting under the tent...imo
8 posted on 01/08/2004 11:54:50 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: libertylass
I am currently not registered to vote. I moved about a year ago, and turned a a motor-voter card with my drivers license change of address. For some mysterious reason it never made it to the registrars office, and I couldn't vote in the recall. Anyway, I have voted for every Republican candidate for president since Ronald Reagan in 1980. This year I won't bother to register and vote. I have nobody to vote for. On the good side, at least I won't be called for jury duty.
9 posted on 01/08/2004 12:06:03 PM PST by Hugin
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To: libertylass
As another Freeper said elsewhere this is truly a read my lips moment.

There should be only one policy regarding illegals, deportation, period.
10 posted on 01/08/2004 12:09:26 PM PST by Cubs Fan
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To: libertylass
I have decided Bush does not get another of my votes in November. Period.

Tancredo write in bump.

11 posted on 01/08/2004 12:12:55 PM PST by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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To: libertylass
If this was proposed by Gore instead of Bush, the threads would be in the 5000 count............sheesh!
12 posted on 01/08/2004 12:14:05 PM PST by international american (support our troops.........revoke Hillary's visa!!)
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To: Hugin
This year I won't bother to register and vote.

See post #11

13 posted on 01/08/2004 12:20:16 PM PST by putupon (Smart Alec tagline about POTUS's illegal immigrant policy CENSORED by AdMod on 1-6-04)
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To: putupon
A pointless gesture. Write in votes are not even counted unless the candidate is registered.
14 posted on 01/08/2004 12:22:59 PM PST by Hugin
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To: cake_crumb
>>>It's not an amnesty program.

Granting legal status to illegal aliens is the same as granting a pardon. In this case, that pardon equals backdoor amnesty. This initiative by PresBush is basically a repeat of the same bad policy decision made by PresReagan in 1986. That legislation was suppose to solve the illegal immigration problem. It didn't. What PresBush proposed yesterday, won't solve the illegal immigration problem either. Holding employers accountable for hiring illegals, should be a major part of any plan that addresses the criminal intent aspect. Bottom line. Without stricter border enforcement efforts, the problem of illegal immigration will only be perpetuated. We've got to shut the door closed, before we can effectively clean up the immigration mess with coherent legislation that has real teeth. There should be no reward offered for breaking the law. Illegals should be prosecuted, then deported or imprisoned.

15 posted on 01/08/2004 12:23:27 PM PST by Reagan Man (The few, the proud, the conservatives.)
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To: TLI
You might as well waste your vote writing in Dean.
16 posted on 01/08/2004 1:35:47 PM PST by BushisTheMan
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To: BushisTheMan
If the pubies are not spanked they will get further out of line. The vote will not be for weenie-deanie and probably not for bush now.

No votation without representation, and bush KNOWS Americans DO NOT WANT THIS. It is not representation when a politican "knows what is best" for the "ordinary americans." That is the arena of the communist-democrats.
17 posted on 01/08/2004 5:17:03 PM PST by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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