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That's why when someone says that Pres Bush alientated his base, you may not be correct as I am part of the base and I will vote for Pres Bush for reelection. I may disagree with some of his proposals, but would never abandon my complete support for his reelection.

If you think that this proposal will not infuriate many NASCAR Dads and Reagan Democrats, you are just wrong.

Rove, the supposed political genius, has made a very serious blunder

First of all you miss the point people are making -- Pres Bush proposed this but did not make it the law.

You are making an assumption that most likely is not true when people have time to stop and think what the President really had to say instead of going over the edge.

If Pres Bush signed an executive order implementing this policy, I would agree with you. But any rationale thinking person knows that something needs to be done and this is the opening to Congress to get the job done.

Do you understand how your "sky is falling" approach is failing? If you didn't read the comments on the President's proposal by the democrat candidates, you should. Then tell the rest of us how all these people are going to stay home and allow one of those democrats to get elected. Not going to happen and you can take that to the bank. People do not usually agree with 100% of what a President does but when it comes to voting, you vote for the person nearest what you believe that CAN get elected.

Yeah, well he did that with steel tariffs too.

the only plus is how FAR OUT the Democrats look by demanding that his plan "doesnt go far enough" and isnt real amnesty that the illegal aliens (er "undocumented workers") really deserve!