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To: Gargantua
"The question at hand is not the Jury's right or lack thereof to adjudicate on the constitutionality of a given law, rather it is whether such a law (a law stating that withholding is mandatory) even exists."

I'm with you on this. The next time I have to go into court over a speeding ticket I'm going to make the court prove that there are laws against speeding, that they are Constitutional, that they are posted, that the cop caught me, that the cop exists, that cars exist, that I exist.

I can't see this having a deleterious effect on the court systems, can you? I believe every day we should re-invent the legal wheel. What a great make-work program for judges, what a full employment guarantee for lawyers. You're a genius!

In case I'm being too subtle here, the tax laws, especially those concerning income tax, are almost certainly the most adjudicated laws in the land. Their existance and Constitutionality have been upheld hundreds if not thousands of times. Just because you are uninformed it doesn't mean it hasn't happened.

A simple Google search or a visit to any of a number of sites, such as this one, would educate you on the matter:

http://evans-legal.com/dan/tpfaq.html

But you would probably rather curse the darkness than light a candle.
140 posted on 01/08/2004 10:21:16 AM PST by Hon
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To: Hon
The vitriol that this topic elicits is indicative of three things:

1. That the answer to this question has yet to be effectively and finally adressed.
2. That some here on FR are either IRS agents or apologists therefor.
3. That some here on FR are active or retired judges who balk at having their Monarchy questioned and exposed.

If such law existed in our Federal Tax Code, it would be the simplest thing for all you IRS and Rogue Court apologists to just cite it, chapter and verse.

The fact that you cannot is more telling than all of your wasted vitriol. p> ;-/

143 posted on 01/08/2004 10:30:02 AM PST by Gargantua (One man's puppy is another man's pudding... or something like that...)
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To: Hon
I'm with you on this. The next time I have to go into court over a speeding ticket I'm going to make the court prove that there are laws against speeding, that they are Constitutional, that they are posted, that the cop caught me, that the cop exists, that cars exist, that I exist.
-hon-





Absurd argument. -- Both defense & prosecution have time limits on arguments.

What they plead in their alloted time before the jury should not be limited, -- according to our constitution..

Get real, hon-ey.
145 posted on 01/08/2004 10:33:44 AM PST by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but FRs flying monkey squad brings out the Rickenbacher in me.)
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