Simkanin guilty of 29 counts of tax violations

Fort Worth Star-Telegram ^ | 1/8/2004 | Max Baker

[Cultural Jihad]

Kinda like asking where in the Constitution is I.B.M. mentioned, or the Air Force.

[spacewarp]

Sink, you keep stating that the USSC has decided it. If it had been decided, do you think the evidence could have been brought out at the first trial? Please site your source for this.

Or, you can play IRS agent and say "It is in the law because I say so."

Paul

[Cultural Jihad]

Well come visit our site and take a look. The American Patriot Party is a young and growing party.

Hey, good luck with your hobby political party. It probably doubles each time someone joins it!

[sinkspur]

Where does it say the government can make an employer a defacto IRS agent by forcing them to withhold income taxes?

Another tactic by the tax protesters is to maintain that if every single process used to carry out constitutional laws is not spelled out in the Constitution, then that process is unconstitutional.

Congress passed withholding under Roosevelt (I forget the year), and withholding has been upheld by the USSC.

[sinkspur]

I won't bother trying to reason with you anymore.

You're not reasoning; you're stamping your feet.

[Cultural Jihad]

True, and the jury might have been aware of that fact, too. In any case, the jury has spoken, and the case is settled. All that remains is for the guilty party to pay his debt to society for the lawful consequences of his freewill actions.

[sinkspur]

Sink, you keep stating that the USSC has decided it. If it had been decided, do you think the evidence could have been brought out at the first trial?

The IRS was under no obligation, and the judge ruled such, to fall for the defense tactic of putting the law on trial.

If you don't like the law, change the law.

[William McKinley]

Ping!

[bvw]

You missed my improper use of "it's", too.

I should hast saith "dost thou".

[Middle Man]

"...it is the province of the jury, on questions of law it is the province of the court, to decide. But it must be observed, that...you have, nevertheless, a right to take upon yourselves to judge of both, and to determine the law as well as the fact in controversy. On this, and on every other occasion, however, we have no doubt, you will pay that respect which is due to the opinion of the court: for as, on the one hand, it is presumed, that juries are the best judges of facts; it is, on the other hand, presumable, that the court are the best judges of law. But still, both objects are lawfully within your power of decision."

Chief Justive John Jay charging the jury in Georgia v. Brailsford, 3 Dall 1 (1794)

[Iron Eagle]

"I never minded paying taxes my whole life until a few years ago when I got screwed by 4 divorce attorneys and a judge with a $60,000 bill. And to think my tax dollars paid for this. The number of rebellious taxpaying citizens is growing. "

Sounds like you got srewed first by the ex-wife, the rest just had sloppy-seconds.

Divorce and child-custody hearings now account for more than 50% of most state Court Dockets. Irrational parents, spurned lovers, and their sleazy, second-rate lawyers drive the system. Frankly, I have always thought that people who can't settle the divorce and distribution out of Court, should pay a divorce tax for bogging down our courts with their own poor decisions and personal misery.

As I recently told one friend who was going to marry someone who had been married once before for only 4 months. Every divorce is both people's fault. She took offense and defended her man by saying how evil, corrupt, manipulating, and unfaithful the former spouse was. I quickly pointed out, that if nothing else, her husband to be was a fool for not knowing that!

[Protagoras]

Truth is, you claimed to speak for everyone, not just the religo-radical theocrats who advocate a violent theocracy and a taliban type "holy war" (Jihad) against our culture. You didn't exclude them. For obvious reasons.

[spacewarp]

No, actually, that would have been back in March when the party was founded. I joined in April. And it's been growing quite well since then. And if you looked at the party information, you MIGHT find that we're actually worth keeping an eye on. We're not just going to fold up tent and walk away. We're actually planning on moving forward. And we've grown quite well considering that we haven't even started an advertising campaign. No, this is not a "hobby" political party. This is a party that will be with the majors at some point.

Besides, there's no need to be nasty. You can just ignore it an move on to the next post if you don't like it.

[sopwith]

If you read the law and study what it really says you will see that this man has been railroaded.

[Gargantua]

The question at hand is not the Jury's right or lack thereof to adjudicate on the constitutionality of a given law, rather it is whether such a law (a law stating that withholding is mandatory) even exists.

The judge refused to even allow such inquiry in the most recent court matter, and in the previous trial, the IRS agents refused to testify as to te existence, if any, of such a law.

That is the biggest single problem here; the Court denying a defendant the right to explore whether the law he is accused of breaking even exists.

Diverting the focus from the actual problem to the straw man of a jury's right to decide the constitutionality of a law only disacts from the hitherto unanswered question:

Does this alleged but unsubstantiated law even exist? And if it does, why does the IRS refuse to cite it in open court?

Let's drop the hot dog bun and chew on the steak, n'kay Sinky?

;-/

[lewislynn]

HR25 has been in the House Ways and Means committee for about a year now.

Be careful what you wish for.

[Cultural Jihad]

Sorry, friend, I was just pulling your leg. Seriously, good luck with your political party if it is not enamored with moral-liberalism.

[sandydipper]

Paying a "fair" tax is fine by me. What is upsetting is that our taxes support hundreds of foreign governments - mostly corrupt - and we build dams in deserts - and we spend billions on "pork" projects. Spending is to Congress as breathing is to you and me.

It's time for a federal sales tax. Pure and simple. Get rid of the "code" and the IRS and let congress spend with constraint.

[sinkspur]

If you read the law and study what it really says you will see that this man has been railroaded.

I wonder if his employees, who were exposed to legal liability by him, would feel the same way?

Every crook feels like he's been railroaded; "the system" did him in.

Please. I'm surprised you don't resent tax cheats who, in effect, are making YOU pay higher taxes. Instead, you laud him as a hero.