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If sealing the border from illegal crossing and locating and processing 12 million trepassing foreign nationals was easy, we wouldn't need any of this other crap.

The population of Iraq is 22,675,617.

If the US Army can hold that country down (among others), why can't we use all resources of government here at home to keep our own country secure?

First, the 9/11 guys came here on legal visitor visas and second, I don't want the U.S. to be "held down".

This issue is going to be FRs ongoing 2004 stupidity parade and "I'm sending a message not to eff with ME" clown act. How freeping boring.

Sorry to tell you folks, but this issue doesn't resonate with Bush's "core" supporters as any kind of betrayal. It will be seen for what it is ... a proactive, open and negotiable proposal to address a national challenge in a real world effective way. Bush garnered 50.5 million votes in 2000. 800 whiny Buchanan Brigaders and other flakey Third Party and Paleo dead enders on an internet forum do not represent ANY groundswell to throw him overboard. If you want to stay home in November, stay home. Who cares?

Anyone who'd abandon Bush over this issue is NO core supporter. Core supporters don't demand ideological pure servicing and tribute from the President and their Reps on every damn policy initiative.

As usual, the "realtrueconservativepatriots" here are shuffling right along in lockstep with Nancy Pelosi, Ted Kennedy, the AFL-CIO and Public Unions, and the folks at DU. It's just all about denying Bush and the GOP meaningful political wins.