Check Out Lou Dobbs on CNN Cable right now – really tearing into the Illegal Alien Amnesty of Bush!

CNN cable Lou Dobbs | 01/07/2003 | brianbaldwin

[Brian_Baldwin]

Check Out Lou Dobbs on CNN Cable right now – he’s really tearing into the Illegal Alien Amnesty of Bush!

If you’re not tuned in, check it out right now, Lou Dobb’s on CNN Cable is really hitting the pertinent points regarding illegal aliens as well as the Bush amnesty. If you missed it, hopefully it will re-air later tonight, on CNN cable. I believe this man truly is a fighter and advocate for the interests of the workers and labor in this country the USA – he is asking very direct questions about the problems of illegal immigration from Mexico, and though he may be a Democrat he presents the news in a superb manner, in this case brings an exciting and significant forum of news events discussion and coverage (Faceoff on CNN, as well as other CNN programs featuring this host). He really got my blood going, he was right on and no fan of illegal immigration.

I don’t want to hear the Mahatma Gandhi insult/quote from Hillary again, not even from the so-called conservative shows/hosts. There is only one issue to cover, and that is the Buffalo that Bush has pulled on all conservatives and Americans. You know, some folks say the Democratic Party is dead. Maybe so. But, maybe not, in that, I would wager, if some Democratic candidate, spokesperson, politician (with a D next to the name) went back to early Democratic Party roots, and focused on the interests of American workers, that is hit on the issues of exporting American jobs to India et all, off shore outsourcing, and yes, what the invasion of illegal aliens from South of the Border is doing to undercut living wage jobs in the USA for labor, I would predict this person would rise like a comet, a meteor, and could very well take the White House. Would the Democratic Party make such a swing away from the left “progressive” wing to become a party that advocates American Workers First? I think it is possible, not immediate, but possible, and probable to come. It’s all a matter of which party gets on this wave first – the Republicans or the Democrats. I predict, that will be the Party that will sweep America. Don’t think so?

I think so. I think that these issues, Made in America, Jobs in USA, American Workers First, illegal aliens, Bush type amnesty, exporting American jobs, offshore outsourcing, are, and will become even more, THE issues of the next four to eight years, and more.

I am outraged by Buffalo Bush.

How dare that man say that I would not do the jobs, any job it takes, to put food on the table of my family. How dare that man say such a thing. That I am a lazy American, and the only Mexicans who come here illegally have the character to do a job, any job, to put food on the table for their family. He can go to Mexico and not come back. My forefathers lived in a wooden box pulled by a horse with a canvas for a roof called a horse drawn wagon, to go somewhere, to put food on the table. My forefathers worked in dirty mines, chucking broken quartz and rock into wagons, to put food on the table. I will do the job, I will get up on someone’s roof and put up shingles, I will paint a wall, I will pick up garbage, to put food on the table for my family. I am an American. And I am proud. And I have the character to do anything it takes. How DARE this President say I won’t do the job it takes if that is what it takes to put food on the table for my family. How DARE he say that. I am an American. I will work. My character, and the character of my forefathers, brought the FREEDOM of this nation, not some illegal alien from Mexico. I will put MY character up against them any day, any place.

Against any one.

Including you, Mr. Bush.

[Texas_Dawg]

Yes he is and he hates America and wishes to destoy it.

Haha. Yeah... I guess you're better than me since you only want to destroy the non-white part of it right?

[citizen]

. I've never heard of anyone paying less than minimum wage, and usually way more, for construction labor.

Thanks for helping my point! Of course construction wages are much above minimum wage, even for the Illegals. That's the point, they can make real good money while still undercutting the legal, regular workforce.

I read an article about a Southern Cal construction Illegal. He made money enough to live here, send a sizeable amount back to Mexico, take two months off to travel back to Mexico around Christmas, and pay $2,000 each way for a coyote to smuggle him across the border.

Picking fruit and mowing lawns? A few do that, sure, but many take good jobs from Americans.

[gubamyster]

Well if you follow the theads, I was responding to this:

To: Exodus22

When was the last time you or your white or asian brothers picked lettece or tomatoes for a living. Your remarks are beyond stupid.

76 posted on 01/07/2004 4:38:27 PM PST by cksharks (quote from)

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I live in CA realize there is a difference. Parents in IL make their kids mow the grass, parents in CA (except me) hire illegals to do it.

When was the last time you or your white or asian brothers picked lettece or tomatoes for a living. Your remarks are beyond stupid.

[Beck_isright]

"Unappeaseables are, well, always unhappy about somethin'."

Better to be an "Unappeasable" than an appeaser:



I suppose you prefer a more famous photo of your idol:

[Texas_Dawg]

That's the point, they can make real good money while still undercutting the legal, regular workforce.

OK. So let's just let them come legally and compete that way. Are you seriously saying that just by changing their label from "illegal" to "legal" that they won't still be able to do the job for cheaper than the average American?

[Texas_Dawg]

Yeah. Nice logic there, Cletus. Nazis and people wanting to build houses and mow golf courses. Pretty comparable. It's pretty obvious you are a HS-grad at best.

[sinkspur]

Who is that? Clark Gable's daddy?

BTW, did your nickname come from that goofball who burned himself up in a house out in California a couple of years ago?

[futureceo31]

This thread is just hilarious....Laughing my behind off!!!

[Beck_isright]

Don't you have some clerical work to finish? Or has your job been outsourced finally? Wall Street won't need you much longer...

[navyblue]

Can't. There's a white family there with a drop-dead-gorgeous blonde mom of two and a dorky husband. And, I can't do it to the folks on the right, since they're Filipino who work like dogs to put their kids through college. Their beagle barks all night, sometimes, though.

Keep the Beagle, send the blonde!

[buwaya]

Why shouldn't an American want to do what this guy is doing ?

Because they have better things to do. Because they prefer easier jobs, even if they pay less. Because the type of American willing to do the job is much less productive for the money.

[Texas_Dawg]

Don't you have some clerical work to finish? Or has your job been outsourced finally? Wall Street won't need you much longer...

Shouldn't you be working on getting your college degree? It might help your career... you know, make you happier so you won't be so scared of Mexicans and everyone being doomed.

[Beck_isright]

"Who is that? Clark Gable's daddy?"

Sink, I appreciate you re-affirming all of the NEA posts we've read on FR through the years.

"BTW, did your nickname come from that goofball who burned himself up in a house out in California a couple of years ago?"

Never heard of him. Glenn Beck.

[new cruelty]

Wow.... That was really - ... hey look, it's spidey!

[Beck_isright]

"Shouldn't you be working on getting your college degree? It might help your career... you know, make you happier so you won't be so scared of Mexicans and everyone being doomed."

Why would I need a degree when I'm retired? I guess your memory is as short as your talking points. Tell Rove to send you some new ones.

[sinkspur]

Sink, I appreciate you re-affirming all of the NEA posts we've read on FR through the years.

You read NEA posts? Why?

[Beck_isright]

"You read NEA posts? Why?"

Entertainment value only.

[DustyMoment]

The problem with your argument, not that it matters much to our politicians much, is that there are no provisions in the Constitution for "Guest Workers". The way Ridge explains it is that they will become a "second-class citizen". I guess it was put that way as a means to make it more palatable. Again, the Constitution has no provision for a "second-class citizen". It'll take the ACLU about 5 minutes in one courtroom to eat that standing alive and have the court confer full citizenship on the "guest worker/second-class citizen".

"Secondly, mass deportation is not going to be a solution for 10 million immigrants and to apply for citizenship. . . " Why isn't mass deportation a solution? Who says? Who says they should be allowed to apply for citizenship?

Let me phrase this a different way. Suppose we knew that there were 10 million rapists or 10 million pedophiles loose in our society? They've all been tried and convicted, but they escaped and are living among the rest of us. Along comes the President (any president, it doesn't have to be Bush) and he proposes giving these 10 million convicted criminals amnesty or pardons and just letting bygones be bygones. I mean, we can't arrest and jail 10 million convicted criminals because . . . well, we just can't.

Do you support this plan? Is it a good deal for America? Are we safer for having pardoned them? Or, have we just encouraged them to do it again because, well it gives the police something to do and helps justify their jobs?

If you support one plan, you have to support the other. If you oppose one plan, you have to oppose the other.

No one is saying that the illegals are necessarily bad people or deadbeats. Many of them are great folks and hard workers. But their presence here shows complete contempt for our system of laws and justice. It's like the guy who cuts in line to buy tickets to the movie. By the time you get to the ticket window, all the seats are sold out until the next show - tomorrow afternoon.

[citizen]

Thanks for the input.

You are right, of course, the areas without a heavy Illegal concentration would of course need to use the legal workforce.

But that's the point, many other places have jobs taken from needy people by businesses of all sorts using these cheaper workers.

Eventually this negatively impacts all of us. All those workers earning less money means less money available for them to spend on something your job may produce, then your labor is worth less to your employer so you earn less money.

[Trust but Verify]

He insulted EVERY working American with those words "they will take jobs Americans won't take."

BS. I'm a working American and I'm not insulted. Nor would I be willing or able to take some of the menial, back-breaking jobs filled by illegals. I also have teenagers who work but are very fussy about the type of work they are willing to do. We are spoiled, face it.