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Please draw me a picture of how it would look on European cameras for 8 million illegals to be marched back to the border en masse.

Who cares?
Did we let Europte stop us from doing the right thing in Iraq?
Why should we let the French scare us into caving to Illegals?

The logistical and geo-political nightmares alone argue for this giant plea bargain. Let them register. Let them deport themselves to try to get more legal time. That self-deportation won't stir up analogies to NAZI roundups and concentration camps. Self-deportation is politically untouchable.

False dilemma.

Frankly, Bush's carrot and stick approach is far more politically savvy than his opposition has grasped, to date.

I don't want to hear you compalining down the road when we still can't get our judges through.
Seriously, if you want a plan to cost you seats in the House and Senate, Bush's Amnesty is the way to go. Today marked the low point of his Presidency.
His plan needs to be defeated for his own good, for the good of the party, and the good of the country. We'll just have to deal with the damage he did today, in the form of the hundreds of thousands of future Illegals who he encouraged to break our laws.

"We'll just have to deal with the damage he did today, in the form of the hundreds of thousands of future Illegals who he encouraged to break our laws."

I disagree. What Bush proposed today does not provide a new incentive for illegals to come here *outside* of Bush's plan. They can apply for legal admission here from their home country, or if they are already here they can pay a fine, Register, and apply for their 3 year blue card.

But if they come over without applying legally (and getting approved) after Bush's plan is approved, then they are EXEMPT from the plea bargain and can't obtain legal status at any point in the future (per the proposal). That's hardly a new incentive to break our laws by trespassing over to here outside of this new program.

Southack: Please draw me a picture of how it would look on European cameras for 8 million illegals to be marched back to the border en masse.

Sabertooth: Who cares?

No kidding! Who gives a flying John Kerry what some bassackwards Eurotrash commies think. Start putting employers of illegal aliens in prison and they will deport themselves.