[Sabertooth]

Indeed, they are trespassers and they are illegal. One of the tools to deal with criminals, however, is the plea bargain

That analogy won't fly. In a plea bargain, the criminal doesn't get to keep his loot.

The loot of the Illegals is their presence in our country. If they get to stay, it's not a plea bargain, it's an Amnesty. The "fine" is a fee for services, comparable to the cost of a coyote.

If they fail, then we get to deport those few failing individuals because they have *registered* with our government (something that they have not done to date), and they lose their tax refunds, and they lose the right to ever enter or work in the U.S. again.

No they wouldn't. We heard this promise in '86.

Politicians who pander with Amnesty are not to be trusted on promises of future diligence.

President Bus is lacking in diligience in enforcing our immigration laws, just like his previous two predecessors.

[Southack]

"President Bus is lacking in diligience in enforcing our immigration laws, just like his previous two predecessors."

Please draw me a picture of how it would look on European cameras for 8 million illegals to be marched back to the border en masse.

The logistical and geo-political nightmares alone argue for this giant plea bargain. Let them register. Let them deport themselves to try to get more legal time. That self-deportation won't stir up analogies to NAZI roundups and concentration camps. Self-deportation is politically untouchable.

Show me a plan that gets all 8 million illegals to Register their name, family, address, and employer, save for Bush's.

Show me how, logistically, we compel a roundup of 8 million illegals, and tell me how that will appear on foreign TV screens.

Frankly, Bush's carrot and stick approach is far more politically savvy than his opposition has grasped, to date.