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To: King Black Robe; Sabertooth; Joe Hadenuf
"Regardless, this is amnesty by another name. Next time around will be the last last chance. Then the last last LAST chance."

No, not amnesty...more like a plea bargain.

8 million violators are being offered a plea bargain in which they can pay a fine, register, and enter into a 3 year visa program on probation. If they lose their job, break a law, or misbehave, then they get deported and lose their eligibility to ever be in the U.S. again...and we will know where and how to deport them because they have *registered*.

In contrast, there would be no fee or registration for a true "amnesty." Amnesty is a very different beast, a beast that doesn't send you back to your home country after 3 years.

134 posted on 01/07/2004 3:55:18 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
And if they don't leave at the end of three years?? Something tells me Bush ain't go to send any folks back. But there are plenty more where they came from on their way now!
137 posted on 01/07/2004 3:57:16 PM PST by KantianBurke (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: Southack
I would say amnesty is not a "very different beast" but only a minutely different beast. In every way that really matters, it's identical. This is just symantics.
140 posted on 01/07/2004 4:00:03 PM PST by King Black Robe (With freedom of religion and speech now abridged, it is time to go after the press.)
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To: Southack
In contrast, there would be no fee or registration for a true "amnesty.">>>>

The 245(i) mini amnesties all required the illegals PAY A FEE.

Amnesty is a very different beast, a beast that doesn't send you back to your home country after 3 years.>>>>>>>

Let the 'temps' come here & birth a couple "Anchor Babies", & see how many end up deported, same as now, VERY FEW.
231 posted on 01/07/2004 6:09:39 PM PST by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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To: Southack
No, not amnesty...more like a plea bargain.

8 million violators are being offered a plea bargain in which they can pay a fine, register, and enter into a 3 year visa program on probation. If they lose their job, break a law, or misbehave, then they get deported and lose their eligibility to ever be in the U.S. again...and we will know where and how to deport them because they have *registered*.

They aren't visitors, they are tesspassers.

They've already misbehaved, they are Illegals.

If we don't deport them now when they're Illegal, we sure won't deport them after this Amnesty by other means.

President Bush has zero credibility on this subject. He has been lax in his deportation efforts for the 300,000 who've already been ordered out of the country. He's also been a champion of the Illegals since he spoke out against Proposition #187 in 1994. He's going to legalize a couple of million Illegals who arrived on his watch. In contrast, there would be no fee or registration for a true "amnesty." Amnesty is a very different beast, a beast that doesn't send you back to your home country after 3 years.

Pure spin cycle. They won't be going home again in three years if the politicians who don't have the guts to do the right thing now are rewarded for this farce.

Bush's Amnesty is unacceptable, and will cost far more votes than it gains.

If you really want to make it tougher to confirm conservative judges, hop on this Amnesty bandwagon. It's a disaster for the nation and the GOP.


254 posted on 01/07/2004 7:13:34 PM PST by Sabertooth (Eighteen solutions better than any Amnesty - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1053318/posts)
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To: Southack
"8 million violators are being offered a plea bargain in which they can pay a fine, register, and enter into a
3 year visa program on probation. If they lose their job, break a law, or misbehave, then they get deported
and lose their eligibility to ever be in the U.S. again...and we will know where and how to deport them
because they have *registered*."

Prediction:
Within a year we will be hearing how sad the plight is of these people: "they will do anything to keep their jobs, becasue they will get deported without a job. This makes them almost like slaves and they have to endure harsh working conditions".
330 posted on 01/08/2004 7:11:00 AM PST by webstersII
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