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W's Live Speech Thread
Fox News | 1-7-04 | my favorite headache

Posted on 01/07/2004 11:29:59 AM PST by My Favorite Headache

Press conference starts at 2:45 EST....get the prilosec out...we are going to need it.



TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush43; illegalimmigrants; immigrationreform
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To: My Favorite Headache
Yes until the mod's got to it its original title was:
America Sold Out: Senor W's Live Speech Thread

I think that was the second title. I think the original was something like "President Bush's Speech - Live Thread"

1,221 posted on 01/07/2004 3:07:00 PM PST by Flyer (Happy Birthday Houston Area Texans!)
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To: mrs tiggywinkle
"How many Americans would willingly do migrant work?"

Go out to a home construction site and see how many Americans are there. Lots of them. Illegals are cutting wages on them.

1,222 posted on 01/07/2004 3:07:02 PM PST by B4Ranch (Wave your flag, don't waive your rights!)
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To: Righter-than-Rush
Mexicans are overwhelmingly Catholic. Catholics aren't Christians

The truth hurts.

The truth says that you are full of bullshit.

1,223 posted on 01/07/2004 3:09:16 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Every man dies. Not every man really lives")
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To: Flyer
The Presidential Live Speech was the #2 thread...the Senor W was the first. Ahhhh well who cares...we got nailed anyway.
1,224 posted on 01/07/2004 3:09:22 PM PST by My Favorite Headache (I Stand With Alex Lifeson)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Why? .. the people are already here and working .. what impact does signing them up to a worker program do ..?? They aren't a citizen .. they cannot vote .. they can only work for 3 years .. then they have to renew the visa .. and eventually go home.

I'm not happy about the SS funds, but if the funds are being deducted from their paychecks then they ought to get some credit for it .. or else we shouldn't deduct the funds.
1,225 posted on 01/07/2004 3:09:29 PM PST by CyberAnt (America is the greatest force for good on the planet ..!!)
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To: Kevin Curry; JohnHuang2
This is the same argument plantation owners in the south made on behalf of slavery and its effect on the price of cotton.

Cha-ching! There's the quote of the day right there!

1,226 posted on 01/07/2004 3:09:54 PM PST by mhking (MaldiciĆ³n justa.)
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To: dben
We all know this Rove election year 'proposal' is never going to make it through Congress.

Just like we all knew the Supremes would overturn CFR?

More "strategery", more "stealing Democrat issues", more selling out America.

1,227 posted on 01/07/2004 3:09:59 PM PST by Tim Osman (It's okay, I wasn't using those constitutional rights anyway.)
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To: Lead Moderator; Jim Robinson
C'mon...restore the original title to the thread...it was a winner!!!
1,228 posted on 01/07/2004 3:10:08 PM PST by My Favorite Headache (I Stand With Alex Lifeson)
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To: Itzlzha
This is a measured, pragmatic proposal that offers real world solutions to our critical, vexing illegal immigration challenges.

I support the program. I predict it will pass Congressional approval and court scrutiny.

Your head may know explode.

1,229 posted on 01/07/2004 3:11:08 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: My Favorite Headache
It was the TRUTH!

Truth is a hard master to serve, for the more devotedly you serve her, the more she hurts you.

1,230 posted on 01/07/2004 3:11:49 PM PST by B4Ranch (Wave your flag, don't waive your rights!)
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To: ShandaLear
What do you suppose would happen to our economy of we suddenly departed every illegal alien who is currently here?

You don't have to deport them all at once. First we should seal our border. We keep South Korea's border pretty damnned secure, we should do the same with ours. Then and only then we should institute some sort of guest worker program...BUT...anyone applying for the program must apply from their country of origin. And finally, as illegals are discovered they should be deported, no ifs, ands or buts.

1,231 posted on 01/07/2004 3:12:21 PM PST by pgkdan
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To: jeremiah
I am finding this very, very hard to believe. The only chance this could be true is if these people were working for high end employers who were overly generous; or these people were getting very high amounts of tips.

Or your "nursing" job is not as a full-fledged nurse.
1,232 posted on 01/07/2004 3:12:28 PM PST by CyberAnt (America is the greatest force for good on the planet ..!!)
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To: ArneFufkin
This is a measured, pragmatic proposal that offers real world solutions to our critical, vexing illegal immigration challenges.

I couldn't agree more.

It's damn well about time someone got up off their ass and did something about the challenges, instead of grandstanding via empty hyperboly.
1,233 posted on 01/07/2004 3:12:35 PM PST by Neets
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To: kevao
He saved the United States from the terrorists...for the Mexicans.

This ill-conceived policy is not just about Mexicans or low paying jobs. It opens the door to all foreigners who have a job offer in the US. There are plenty of jobs in the sciences, medicine, and computer technology that will attract foreign workers. The outsourcing of IT jobs to India and South Asia will continue as well. The graduate schools in the US are dominated by foreign students as far as the hard sciences are concerned and the trend is getting worse thanks to our failed K-12 school system.

I am particularly troubled that participants in the program will be able to bring in their families. The numbers of aliens will increase exponentially taxing our civil infrastructure even more. And each child born in the US becomes a US citizen cementing the permancy of these people. We must control immigration into this country. Bush has thrown the door open even wider.

1,234 posted on 01/07/2004 3:13:01 PM PST by kabar
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To: All
Well, I must say while I don't agree with all of it, compared to what the media was reporting through all the "leaks", this isn't that bad.

Before I pass final judgment, I do more reading on it and see the language in the bills once they're introduced to Congress. Reading the bills will tell us what the real goal is.

1,235 posted on 01/07/2004 3:13:27 PM PST by COEXERJ145
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To: CyberAnt
Sorry Jeremiah .. I meant that message for someone else.
1,236 posted on 01/07/2004 3:13:49 PM PST by CyberAnt (America is the greatest force for good on the planet ..!!)
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To: Kevin Curry
This will be the equivalent of bringing an entire new state of 9 million liberal Democrats into the union.

You are so right Kevin. It's what they do now, the unions back them and march them around demanding health care. I've seen it with my own eyes. This really makes me ill.

I'm writing int Tancredo. This is really disgusting!

1,237 posted on 01/07/2004 3:13:51 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: dubyaismypresident
This account has been banned or suspended. Buh bye, AntiCatholic bigot.

Damn. I wanted him to respond to my comment.

1,238 posted on 01/07/2004 3:15:14 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Every man dies. Not every man really lives")
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To: expatguy
Si! Exactamundo!
1,239 posted on 01/07/2004 3:15:56 PM PST by Beck_isright ("Deserving ain't got nothing to do with it" - William Money)
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To: CyberAnt
Not only that .. but most white people will not work the service jobs .. maids, janitors, waitors, yard workers, etc.

That's a load. If that were the case we wouldn't have unemployed or folks on welfare. As someone earlier said, get rid of welfare and we will fill our jobs.

1,240 posted on 01/07/2004 3:16:41 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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