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W's Live Speech Thread
Fox News | 1-7-04 | my favorite headache

Posted on 01/07/2004 11:29:59 AM PST by My Favorite Headache

Press conference starts at 2:45 EST....get the prilosec out...we are going to need it.



TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush43; illegalimmigrants; immigrationreform
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To: Sloth
so don't vote if you don't like the choices. go to Cuba and live...there you don't have to make a hard choice at all.
1,161 posted on 01/07/2004 2:35:09 PM PST by BushisTheMan
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To: ravingnutter
The proposal set forth by the President will have to be debated in Congress. The one Republican bill I saw said there would be a $1500 fine for breaking the immigration law and these people would be put at the back of the line. I don't see how that equates to amnesty.

Is anyone going to be deported, or pay in any way, for having violated U.S. immigration law? No. That's a de facto amnesty.

Just because you can still be punished for future violations of the law, when you have been forever absolved from your past infractions, you have indeed been granted amnesty.

1,162 posted on 01/07/2004 2:35:24 PM PST by kevao
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To: CyberAnt
That is a low blow
1,163 posted on 01/07/2004 2:35:40 PM PST by My Favorite Headache (I Stand With Alex Lifeson)
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To: WackyKat
I guess the millions of Americans who have lost jobs over the last two years are just lazy

How many of them are picking fruit?

1,164 posted on 01/07/2004 2:35:44 PM PST by Dave S
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To: Rebelbase
Whatever.

I'll discuss and debate in as heated a fashion as you wish. That is not what was going on and I reject your defense of the inane.
1,165 posted on 01/07/2004 2:35:45 PM PST by cyncooper (a)
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To: No More Gore Anymore
Sen. Liberman. He is going to give Bush a run for his money. That is my prediction.

He would, but the Democrats prefer a candidate who foams at the mouth, and Liberman is too reasonable. He has ZERO chance at the nomination.

You have always had an anti- Constitutional stand in any discussion with me

Don't take disagreement for being "anti-Consitution."

1,166 posted on 01/07/2004 2:36:05 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: CurlyBill
LMAO
1,167 posted on 01/07/2004 2:36:19 PM PST by My Favorite Headache (I Stand With Alex Lifeson)
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To: Sloth
I don't understand any of your points
1,168 posted on 01/07/2004 2:36:42 PM PST by BushisTheMan
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To: kevao
Just because you can still be punished for future violations of the law, when you have been forever absolved from your past infractions, you have indeed been granted amnesty.

Exactly.

1,169 posted on 01/07/2004 2:36:43 PM PST by NittanyLion (E-A-G-L-E-S...Eagles!)
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To: BushisTheMan
so don't vote if you don't like the choices. go to Cuba and live...there you don't have to make a hard choice at all.

No, thanks. Fortunately, my country's Constitution does not require me to support the lesser of two evils.

1,170 posted on 01/07/2004 2:37:31 PM PST by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: Miss Marple
The guest worker program worked well. Unfortunately, it was forced out of existence by Cesar Chavez and the United Farmworkers Union goons.
1,171 posted on 01/07/2004 2:37:49 PM PST by wjcsux (DemocRATS, out of touch with America, out of touch with reality.)
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To: BushisTheMan
Those opposed to what the President proposed seem to be louder here, but from reading a large portion of this thread I think there are more in support. As it should be.
1,172 posted on 01/07/2004 2:37:56 PM PST by Flyer (Happy Birthday Houston Area Texans!)
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To: mhking; eleni121
President Bush is not only attempting to reform immigraiton by legalizing the millions who are already here but doing it wisely in the economic sense.

Let's open the damn floodgates while we're at it, why don't we?

I'm breaking my damn neck looking for a job; more than half of them (at least in my field) are being outsourced offshore.

Then I have to listen to a president that I'm supposed to agree with tell me that there are jobs that Americans won't do; He practically slaps American workers and employers both in the face with it. He insults our intelligence by talking about how "brave" these "undocumented workers" are. Call 'em by their actual name: ILLEGALS.

Save your breath..."eleni"s pom-poms are making too much noise, and the pitter-pattering heart at GWB drowns out reason...after all, YOU are to blame for your job sitch...right?

Yeesh! Methinks said FReeper has NO IDEA who you are!

1,173 posted on 01/07/2004 2:38:05 PM PST by Itzlzha (The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote!)
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To: BushisTheMan
I don't understand any of your points

That's because you appear to lack any ideological basis for deciding whether something ought to be legal or illegal.

1,174 posted on 01/07/2004 2:39:10 PM PST by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: riri
"My grandmother came here from Germany when she was in her late 30's, she never spoke a word of German to me. Only English. My father learned English when he came here at the age of 17, never heard more than a word or two of German in my house growing up."

Too bad. Being bilingual is an excellent skill.
1,175 posted on 01/07/2004 2:39:44 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: FredTownWard
"Could you really stomach gunning down innocent, men, women, and children at the border?"

Innocent people don't break into other people's homes. That makes them anything but innocent. They should be prevented from turning the nation forever into a socialist democracy, by any means neccessary.

What you promote is not disuading them at all from crossing and I don't think it would take much persuading for them to stay home. Just because they are ignorant does not make them not dangerous to the survival of the Constitution and the nation as a Democratic Republic. I have my own kids to think about and what will happen to them in a socialist nightmare, knowing full well that no socialist government ever succeeds.

Your tear jerker compassion certainly lies in the wrong direction, you should turn around and look at your own kids and what their future will be when illegals are finished inflicting their damage on your kids future.

1,176 posted on 01/07/2004 2:40:11 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Sloth
No it's because I am reasonable in trying to find a solution whereas you are not.
1,177 posted on 01/07/2004 2:40:48 PM PST by BushisTheMan
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To: MineralMan
Too bad. Being bilingual is an excellent skill

Ironically, I lived there later in life and learned the language to a decent extent. But I agree on the premise.

1,178 posted on 01/07/2004 2:41:12 PM PST by riri
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To: Righter-than-Rush
Hey loser, moron, did you know that the Catholic Church and Catholic priests put the entire Bible together.

Yes its really true. The Catholic clergy got together and decided which books were inspired by God and put them together in the Bible. It is our Bible but we will let you use it.

1,179 posted on 01/07/2004 2:41:26 PM PST by ChristianCrusader
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To: Mad Dawgg
Thanks Dubya Now the Troll won't regenerate...;-)

Thanks. That was truly a degenerate troll. Plus now I have this sportin new tan.

1,180 posted on 01/07/2004 2:41:49 PM PST by NeoCaveman (se habla espanol)
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