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To: hchutch
The question is, are these disagreements with the restrictionist position worthy of attacking another conservative over? I don't think so.

Exactly.

Not sure what the answer is about illegal immigration but somethinig has to be done and starting a discourse like the President is doing with sending his recommendations to Congress is a huge step forward. People can rant all they want about sending every illegal back, but it is never going to happen so dialogue about what to do has to be started and sincerely hope that rationale people prevail.

The one thing I have noticed is they are saying it is not an amenesty program and does not grant them permanent residency or more importantly citizenship and a right to vote. That is huge in my book.

142 posted on 01/07/2004 9:44:25 AM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: PhiKapMom
IMO, Bush's best move here is to let Congress fight this out and for the White House not to get too far in front on this issue.

Im not sure if there as wide support/votes for this as everyone thinks when push comes to shove.

145 posted on 01/07/2004 9:47:20 AM PST by dben
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To: PhiKapMom
The one thing I have noticed is they are saying it is not an amenesty program and does not grant them permanent residency or more importantly citizenship and a right to vote. That is huge in my book.

They keep changing the definition of Amnesty, focus-grouping for something they think the public will swallow.

Consider for a moment: what is the likelihood politicians will compel Illegals to leave after they're legalized, if they won't make them leave now, when they're in violation of the law?

The entire foundation of the false claim of the need for some sort of Amnesty is that we can't solve the problem and get the Illegals out. This is Amnesty by stages, with windowdressing for public consumption.


156 posted on 01/07/2004 9:57:03 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: PhiKapMom
The one thing I have noticed is they are saying it is not an amenesty program and does not grant them permanent residency or more importantly citizenship and a right to vote. That is huge in my book.

My concern is that a worker program will be a first step in leading to an amnesty, and I think that is just wrong.

217 posted on 01/07/2004 10:59:55 AM PST by SCalGal
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