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On the other hand, I’ve also observed a shifting coalition of posters who are less than sincere on the other side of the debate; who are prone to using Democrat talking points to smear posters who are concerned about Illegals as anti-immigrant and closet racists. When reading their posts, one half-wonders if they aren’t moles for the L.A. Times.

An operation IS definitely underway. After my post about the "Mexican Mindset" pointing out that many Mexicans grow up observing the adults in their lives continually lying was pulled because of the vitrol posted by some, I received an interesting mail message from new_cruelty.

First, this individual tried to disparage my writing ability. I found this to be odd as I have in my life already worked as a newspaper editor for THREE different newspapers and have the M.A. in Journalism/Photography. Then, after telling n.c. to leave me alone, the individual responded by saying it was a "moot point" to argue as the thread was pulled anyway...as if that were the goal. The very foundations of this society are under attack. Our values, our freedoms, everything is deliberately being undermined by someone VERY evil. However, as my very observant wife noted, the people trying to help SOMEONE get control will have no part in the "new" society. They will find themselves, too, on the outside looking in.