[baltodog]

So, what you're saying is that the certain owner of a golf course in Saugatuck, Michigan is going to suddenly start taking out taxes and social security while at the same time offering a comprehensive benefits package to the dozen or so illegals he has working for him.

And all of this will be good for ME in the long run.

When pigs fly, pinko.

[txdoda]

So, what you're saying is that the certain owner of a golf course in Saugatuck, Michigan is going to suddenly start taking out taxes and social security while at the same time offering a comprehensive benefits package to the dozen or so illegals he has working for him.>>>>>>>>

My same thoughts (if it's been addressed I missed it.) Any *punishment* for the employers who have been working these illegals ??

Wonder if Bush thinks these millions of employers of the illegals are *suddenly* going to start paying a decent wage, benefits, & their end of the taxes ?? If these were 'law-abiding' employers, they wouldn't have been working 'illegals' to begin with.

Without 'secure borders' there will always be 'illegal workers' & employers who will work them (off the books, of course!!)

[dhs12345]

Good point baltodog.

People claim that illegals help the economy, i.e., they produce more than they cost. I question the math and I wonder how the pluses and minuses will add up when employers are required to pay minimum wage, social security, workman’s comp, union wages, etc.

The advantage of cheap labor will be gone.

Will they not hire them? Will they hire them and pass the much higher costs on to the consumer?

[BackSlidenDemocrat]

It's either that or continue to be the illegal entity that creates the illegal environment that keeps the illegal here. I don't suppose he would really want to pay the price of harboring a criminal now would he. Or are you just someone who believes the employer is just a innocent victim of the desires of the illegal. How is this good for you...well they could both pay the taxes that both are currently avoiding. In the case of the illegal it is an act of despiration to continue his existance. For that Golf course owner you are so diligently defending, who is frauduantly screwing you, me and the system, I say fine him 10 times the amount he would have owed if he would have done things the right way. And by the way....I am no pinko (commie whatever you were trying to imply) and I have seen pigs fly through the air when Pink Floyd was in concert....And they were pink pigs too...imagine that dude.

Thanks for your 2 sense!