Bush seeks to ease immigration laws

Chicago Sun-Times ^ | 1-6-04 | DEB RIECHMANN ASSOCAITED PRESS

[Beck_isright]

"All we need are political leaders with the will to carry it out."

We have no leaders. Just politicians for sale. Sorry. We've dumbed down the electorate to this point in our history. Rome shall now invite the Visigoths and barbarians in to save the Republic. It's deja vu all over again, as Yogi would say.

[Beck_isright]

You can say it quicker with the phrase "bot"...

[Reaganwuzthebest]

We have no leaders. Just politicians for sale. Sorry.

It's going to take a few more years yet for this problem to reach critical mass. Illegal immigration is only now beginning to affect a majority of states and more people are speaking up. So politicians will soon have a choice: lead, follow, or get out of the way.

[janetgreen]

American workers do build homes and golf courses, and yes, we mow our own lawns too. We just can't afford to work for slave wages like the illegal aliens do. Who do you think built America? Your arguments are weak. Illegal aliens use up more American social services and resources than they're paying for, that's for sure, and they bring down wages for citizens. Good deal for them, bad deal for America.

[Happy2BMe]

"‘That’s an economic need that exists. It’s important that we have a fair immigration policy and an immigration policy that addresses those economic needs,’’ McClellan added."

Economic or political one? Who is BULL$$$TIN who?

Q: Why does the United States Government permit wholesale illegal Mexican immigration?

A: For the workers.

Q: Why does the United States Government need foreign workers (not just Mexicans)?

A: It does not have enough labor force to meet the service sector and other blue collar work sector demands and growth within it's economy.

Q: Why does the United States Government not have enough workers to meet economic demand?

A: Over TWENTY MILLION AMERICAN WORKERS HAVE BEEN ABORTED OVER THE PAST TWENTY YEARS.

Q: If over twenty million American workers have been aborted over the past twenty years, who is going to pay for (read: generate taxes) the Social Security of the baby-boomer generation (now reaching critical mass)?

A: Mexican workers.

Final Question: If they had survived, who would they have to thank for it and WHO WOULD THE TWENTY MILLION ABORTED AMERICANS HAVE VOTED MOST FOR?

Any questions?

[Beck_isright]

From Decline and Fall, Chapter 31:

"At the hour of midnight the Salerian gate was silently opened, and the inhabitants were awakened by the tremendous sound of the Gothic trumpet. Eleven hundred and sixty-three years after the foundation of Rome, the Imperial city, which had subdued and civilised so considerable a part of mankind, was delivered to the licentious fury of the tribes of Germany and Scythia."

The Goths are beyond the gates. Our republic shall begin the great historical parallel.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

Dawg obviously hasn't been to my part of the country where few illegals have invaded as of yet. Just about everything, you name it the work is getting done by us lazy Americans.

That's something the illegal alien apologists don't want anyone to know about as it blows their whole shallow argument out of the water.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

The Goths are beyond the gates. Our republic shall begin the great historical parallel.

If illegal immigration isn't stopped and soon the Republic is finished.

[Beck_isright]

Thus the parallels. Gibbons had great insight. That one book should be required reading for all serious FReepers.

[CyberAnt]

No! But .. I do think Bush may be doing this to perhaps soften the blow at having to tighten up the borders .. right after this worker thing is set up ..??

Rush had a good write-up about it .. some of which I agree with. There are a lot of jobs in America that Americans WILL NOT DO. These are the jobs the starving Mexicans come into America to take. So .. if the jobs are not being filled .. and there are workers who want to fill them .. I can see the logic of offering the Mexican people the chance to fulfill these jobs.

I have an Hispanic daughter-in-law .. with a big family. Even though her family came here legally (and they're all citizens now) .. they are opposed to giving freebees to ILLEGALS! However .. my daugter-in-law's family are all employed and home owners. They attend church, vote, pay their taxes .. etc. My point is .. most Mexican families are good citizens.

[MadeInOhio]

Speaking of existing laws, consider this constitutional gem, Article 4, Section 4: "The United States shall guarantee to every state in the Union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion ... ."

I didn't know we amended the document to exclude Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California from that protection.

[Texas_Dawg]

Sorry for being a little dispirited.

No worries. I can safely say you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about though. Good luck.

[Texas_Dawg]

I think "smart with money" is a more accurate conclusion to draw.

Or just too lazy to work for less when they can just take a free handout? Funny how your crowd condemns "the illegals" (nice codeword there) for taking handouts but you fully support your lazy friends doing the same. Fwiw, I am against illegal immigration, but I, like GWB, would like to see more people allowed into the US who are willing to work in the place of lazy losers who would rather sit around and collect unemployment than roof a house for minimum wage in the middle of a Texas summer. Mexicans will do that gladly. More power to them. A legally immigrated Mexican that will do that while some lazy POS sits around taking unemployment because he thinks he is better than that is a far better human being in my book. I'd rather have better people living in America than more losers. Call me crazy.

[Texas_Dawg]

Your Spanish is really lousy, fwiw.

[Texas_Dawg]

you seem almost cultish in your slavish devotion to bush.

You seem almost cultish in your slavish devotion to whomever it is you agree with on whatever issues.

[Texas_Dawg]

We just can't afford to work for slave wages like the illegal aliens do.

You can't? Or you just don't want to? Funny that legal Mexican immigrants can but you can't.

[Texas_Dawg]

Just about everything, you name it the work is getting done by us lazy Americans.

More power to you. Nothing to worry about from legal Mexican immigrants then. Let's have more.

[hedgetrimmer]

We're all going to die because because there are too many citizens who don't respect or uphold the Constitution and lack the courage to defend the freedoms given to them sometime at the cost of their lives, by our founders and ancestors.

[Texas_Dawg]

That's not lazy, that's smart.

Smart? Fine. It most definitely is lazy as well though. I would trade you an abolition of unemployment handouts for this GWB "amnesty" bill. But since that isn't going to be happening and there are people willing to work hard and serve this country while lazy people sit on their butts taking handouts, then bring them on.

You're doing more harm here for the President's name and cause than anything else. I wonder if that isn't just what you intend.

FR is a very, very, very small (a few thousand people) website that gives a forum to a radical FRinge from American society. While there are some good conservatives here, there are also many wack-jobs that despise this president and everything he does. They moan and whine constantly. I would like to see that they do not vote for the President or the GOP. Neither one needs them. They are not a base. They are a small group of misanthropic isolationists and racists. GWB and Karl Rove know what they are doing and will win in a rout in 2004. Just watch. I'll be celebrating that rout. A huge percentage of FR will not be.