Among other things its awful funny that we hear from these yackers and quackers the day before and on the day legislation is supposed to be introduced or signed .
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Posted on 01/06/2004 2:58:09 PM PST by chicagolady
January 6, 2003
Representative Tom Tancredo, a member of The Liberty Caucus, will discuss immigration policy on the CBS Evening News with Dan Rather tonight.
Mr. Tancredo will also appear on the NBC Today Show tomorrow, January 7th, during the 7 a.m. ET/5 a.m. MT hour to discuss immigration reform issues with Norah O'Donnell.
Kent Snyder The Liberty Committee http://www.thelibertycommittee.org
I am very pro-immigration Why wouldn't we want to bring in the best and brightest people from all around the world, and say "come and take your chance in the 21st century on America"? Become Americans. Do what people have done for centuries when they sought a new frontier, a new environment, a new opportunity. Come here. Help us create jobs and intellectual capital in America. So I am very pro-immigration.
Source: WCGU-FM interview on "Sound Off With Sasha" Jun 27, 2003
Immigration is vital to prosperity
We're a nation of immigrants. We should be encouraging every person from the Indian Institute of Technology that comes to this country to stay in this country. Become an American citizen. Join with us. Make a great company. Let's all be wealthy and prosperous and happy together. Immigration has a vital part to play in that process. Source: Speech at the New Democrat Network Jun 17, 2003
I don't think the consumers produced it. For one our food isn't labeled "legal" or "illegal" --- and looking at the high prices in the grocery stores, it doesn't seem these savings in labor are being passed down to the consumer. What's driving this is some businesses are making high profits with low labor costs and the government is making it easier for them to survive and allowing honest businesses trying to abide by the laws to go bankrupt or struggle.
We've got a government dead set on rewarding those who choose not to respect laws --- employers who knowingly break labor laws are getting by with this, people who choose to come here illegally are being moved ahead of those who tried to obey the law. Now it's actually being proposed that those who would claim to have committed a felony crime will be paid a monthly retirement --- even the illegal who worked here but didn't hook up with an organized crime ring to obtain stolen documents is not included in this significant financial reward.
America is an immigrant nation. As President, I will recognize and respect the vital role immigrants have played in building the American Community.
Candidate Bush promised that he would be a different kind of Republican, supportive of immigrants and their desires to achieve the American Dream. Candidate Bush promised to revamp the naturalization process so that immigrants who met the requirements could obtain their citizenship in six months or less. Unfortunately, President Bush has not kept these promises.
While he made these promises, his Attorney General John Ashcroft was deputizing local police authorities as junior INS agents to track down undocumented immigrants. He has ignored the dreams of millions of immigrants to become a legitimate part of our society, and not simply its unseen workforce.
As President, I will work to ensure that people who work hard, pay taxes, and otherwise obey the rules can become full participants in our society, including becoming citizens. I will work to regularize the migration of labor in a way that makes economic and humanitarian sense. Deaths in the desert do neither. I will propose reforms that ensure we can meet our economy's need for workers at all skill levels, without pitting foreign workers against U.S. workers and while respecting workers' rights -- including the right to organize.
I will work to ensure that immigrants who are detained by the Department of Homeland Security are afforded their basic civil rights. I will build on our country's long history of welcoming immigrants in ways that reflect our need for security but do not sacrifice the basic ideals upon which this nation was founded.
Immigrants create demand rather than take jobs away Four worries drive most of the opposition to immigration: JOBS: A new immigrant brings with him a need for products and services-which his job gives him the money to buy. So the immigrant has no net effect on the competition for jobs or the level of wages. Immigrants don’t take jobs away from Americans. They increase the demand for labor and they help meet that demand.
CULTURE: The answer to the culture problem isn’t to keep immigrants out, but to restore the America of free individuals, each responsible and self-governing. Immigrants will embrace our culture more quickly when government stops trying to dissolve it.
NOT ENOUGH ROOM: The US is still a country of wide open spaces. America could triple its population without our existing cities growing any faster than they do now.
Maintain open borders; end war on immigration End welfare, so that America attracts productive immigrants, rather than people who want to live off the taxpayers. Maintain open borders and a free market--so that America is a haven for people who want to produce in freedom. Government doesn’t work, and a government War on Immigration will be no more successful than the War on Poverty or the War on Drugs.
Thats la la land bro...take my end of the stick and then tell me that idealistic notions carry water...the consumers are nothing but perfect capitalists...they take the low bid 9 times out of ten...
And here is the really crappy part about it...even the heavy hitters and players are merging 'dirty' labor with clean labor...I know this for a fact...either get down and play the game...or get out....I got out...
Totally sucks too, cause I ran a tight crew and we did rock solid awsome work...and the market is shallower cause I am gone...Oh well
Joe six pack and Yuppie Nordstrom vote with bucks...
Hate to say it...when the rubber meets the road...its all about the bucks...
And its not about 'honest' and 'dishonest' business....its about surviving....
The govmint dont do squat about it...either you hire 'illegals'...or your screwed...
Thats why I got out...cause it totally sucks...America is weaker because of it....
At worst what Dean says is no different than what Bush is saying --- and Dean apparently would limit this to people who work hard (no welfare types?), pay taxes (must show tax statements filed with the IRS?), otherwise obey the rules (stolen Social Security numbers wouldn't be used as any kind of evidence for more rewards?). I don't like Dean, I won't vote for Dean --- but how is his plan any worse than a plan that would go so far as to reward certain illegals that participated in felony document fraud. That would almost legalize those crime rings providing those stolen documents --- if it's no longer a crime to have used them, then it must be okay to provide them.
I'm not voting for Harry Browne either --- but I don't see Bush putting an end to welfare --- and he hasn't mentioned anything about deporting those immigrants who are living on welfare.
Not all illegals are using welfare benefits --- many do, not all illegals commit felony document fraud --- many do. If Bush would deport all those who are not here to work or who work so marginally they require food stamps, WIC, free health care, and deport all those who used stolen and fraudulent Identification documents, and offered some kind of deal to only those illegals who have never committed any other crime at all --- no shoplifting, no DWI, no unpaid hospital bills, no driving without insurance etc --- it might be different --- but I don't see that this is what it's about.
President Bush on the other hand has a few other minor items competing for his attention. Of course I'm sure that has just skipped your attention.
I MEANT HARDLY ISOLATED , not highly.
Some are -- an our perspectives on that can change depending on where we live and what we see first hand. I think the hispanics of New Mexico and parts of Texas --- but often these aren't immigrants at all -- they lived there before it even was the USA have a strong work ethic --- you can look at their history --- how they settled in the northern territories which weren't even states during the time Spain governed them --- you had to be a independent pioneer type to take those risks the Spanish who came here had to take. And those who left Mexico at the time of the Revolution have developed a work ethic and are generally quite Conservative.
Otherwise --- you can't stereotype --- some people from Mexico have a poor work ethic --- you can see that back where they came from, some have a good work ethic. Some with a good work ethic have kids who are worse than American kids because they look down on the kind of work their own parents did.
What is clear and present danger is the trend of "Zimbabweing" America. We are not talking about free trade and competition with Mexican workers here, we are talking about selective amnesty of illegals while the selective prosecution of AMericans for their federal IRS faults go on. THis leads to a direct tax on exporting American workers and a tax free zone for illegals importing labor, one zone renewed every 20 years or so between amnesties.
It also is a show that we do not want to open our eyes and we do not want to hunt the terrorists and spies inland. We know who they are and how they come here. Yet we do nothing about it. Illegal immigrants, all of them, are suspected spies and people who treat America and Americans through the social, political and legal systems like we are lab rats.
Among other things its awful funny that we hear from these yackers and quackers the day before and on the day legislation is supposed to be introduced or signed .
........Read the online book here
My own public service announcment !
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