1 posted on
01/05/2004 3:30:18 PM PST by
Jaysun
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To: Jaysun
good post- keep it bumped
2 posted on
01/05/2004 3:36:31 PM PST by
Mr. K
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3 posted on
01/05/2004 3:38:00 PM PST by
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To: Jaysun
Good research. This would be even more powerful and make a better impact if you could diagram it in some sort of spreadsheet or chart.
To: Jaysun
We should move to dismantle the dismal failure known as public education.*Gasp*
Don't you realize that a public education is a CIVIL RIGHT??? I was educated in a public school so I *know* that it is somewhere in the Bill of Rights... let me just check... Oh! Look! "Friends" is on! Let me get back to you...
6 posted on
01/05/2004 3:43:51 PM PST by
bolobaby
To: Jaysun
Not to mention that the federal government has no constitutional business being involved with education to begin with. The states are perfectly capable of handling these matters themselves.
8 posted on
01/05/2004 3:46:15 PM PST by
inquest
(The only problem with partisanship is that it leads to bipartisanship)
To: Jaysun
The District spends so much per pupil largely because of the special education population. The administration has lost so many lawsuits for not following basic IEP's that about 10% go to private schools, paid for by the District. In addition, the population has a large amount of special needs children, some requiring residential care. Residential care can go upwards of 250k per year, per child.
A better comparison would be one that compared dollars spent on regular education. Rural states do not have the incredible numbers of high needs children that can skew these types of reports.
To: Jaysun
I educate my children using a state-of-the-art satellite receiver, wireless network, Dell Computers, DVD burner, widely-used home and Christian school curriculum and textbooks for around $600 annually per student. The satellite-broadcast teaching is done by degreed and certified teachers using standard teaching methods as well as computer animation, video, puppetry, etc. The textbooks are some of the most popular for Christian schools and home schools. My children can log into any computer in the house and watch their recorded teachers or they can load it from DVDs.
$600 per student per year plus the time and effort made by my wife and I. And my children are getting a better education. End the government monopoly on education.
10 posted on
01/05/2004 3:52:11 PM PST by
Spiff
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To: Jaysun
edukcshun dump bummp
18 posted on
01/05/2004 4:35:46 PM PST by
upchuck
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To: Jaysun
Did you account for the difference in the cost of living between regions? $1,000 in Mississippi can probably "buy" a lot more than $1,000 in New Jersey or DC.
23 posted on
01/05/2004 5:26:48 PM PST by
clikker
To: Jaysun
Good post, good topic. In the process of reading "Fed Ed," -- by Allen Quist on 'The New Federal Curriculum and How It's Enforced.' States no longer control public education and Gummint farmed out the curriculum to an NGO, Center for Civic Education without any input from the states. Just another law congress passed based on their negligence to read the fine print in proposed legislation.
To: Jaysun
I was looking over your source of data (seeing Alabama's education system in such a good light is not very common) and I noticed something you might want to check out. You are comparing state's only on their SAT scores, which for the most part are taken only on a volunteer basis, mainly to get into college. I'm not sure how you interpreted the "Percent of Graduates taking SAT 1999-2000" column (
http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d01/dt137.asp), but it looked to me as it though it meant that, for instance, 9 percent of Alabama's graduating seniors took the test and consequently their average score is based on that 9 percent of Alabama's student body. But if you look at D.C.'s data you'll see that 89 percent of their graduating seniors took the SAT. This is an assumption but I believe it to be true: Alabama's brightest and top nine percent of students took the test, while almost all of the students in D.C. took the test, therefore D.C.'s average is "polluted" with all the morons, and Alabama's average contains mostly the smarter students. I hope I didn't misinterpret the meaning of "Percent of Graduates taking SAT 1999-2000," else I shall look fairly ridiculous.
I agree the last thing public education needs is more money, but I thought I might mention the above to you so that you could build a more airtight statistical argument.
To: Jaysun
Great post and great bio on your page
To: Jaysun
INTREP - EDUCATION REFORM
To: Jaysun
Excellent stats, Jaysun!
Could you possibly score the data for the rest of the States? I'd like to run a correlational analysis on that data. From the stats you've posted, I'd expect to see a negative relationship between funding and SAT rank, meaning the higher the funding the lower the rank.
31 posted on
01/05/2004 11:50:15 PM PST by
bdeaner
To: Jaysun
Public education will never be a learning experience as long as the teachers unions prevent inferior "teachers" from being terminated.
35 posted on
01/06/2004 9:47:35 AM PST by
sandydipper
(Never quit - never surrender!)
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38 posted on
01/06/2004 10:41:25 AM PST by
Aquinasfan
(Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
To: Jaysun
bump
To: Jaysun
And if you want to know what the Hilary Clinton's of the world have in mind for the future of schooling, you might want to read Marc Tucker's (President of National Center on Education and the Economy)
"Dear Hilary" letter The "Dear Hillary" letter lays out a plan "to remold the entire American [school] system" into "a seamless web that literally extends from cradle to grave and is the same system for everyone," coordinated by "a system of labor market boards at the local, state and federal levels" where curriculum and "job matching" will be handled by counselors "accessing the integrated computer-based program." The plan would change the mission of the schools away from teaching children academic basics and knowledge so they can make their own life choices, and toward training them narrowly in specific job skills to serve the global economy in jobs selected by workforce boards.
43 posted on
01/06/2004 12:49:38 PM PST by
Aquinasfan
(Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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45 posted on
07/03/2004 6:33:15 AM PDT by
The Mayor
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