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Purported Bin Laden Tape Likely Authentic
WINS NEWS ^ | 1/5/03

Posted on 01/05/2004 7:42:27 AM PST by areafiftyone

CAIRO, Egypt (AP) -- A speaker who was purportedly Osama bin Laden said on an audiotape that the U.S.-led war in Iraq was the beginning of the "occupation" of Gulf states for their oil and called on Muslims to keep fighting a holy war in the Middle East. The tape is likely authentic, U.S. officials said Monday.

The voice on the audiotape, which was broadcast Sunday on the Al-Jazeera satellite channel, referred to recent events - including the Dec. 13 capture of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein and peace initiatives between Israel and the Palestinians.

The speaker urged Muslims to "continue the jihad to check the conspiracies that are hatched against the Islamic nation."

A CIA official speaking on condition of anonymity said that a technical analysis determined that the tape was likely an authentic audio message from bin Laden, the leader of the al-Qaida terror network.

On CBS's "The Early Show," Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge also said that "preliminary assessments says this is the voice of Osama bin Laden."

Al-Jazeera played the audiotape while showing a still photo of bin Laden against a dark blue background.

"My message is to incite you against the conspiracies, especially those uncovered by the occupation of the crusaders in Baghdad under the pretext of weapons of mass destruction, and also the situation in (Jerusalem) under the deceptions of the road map and the Geneva initiative," the speaker said.

A Mideast peace plan dubbed the Geneva Accord was launched Dec. 1 by Israeli and Palestinian negotiators. The phrase "road map" refers to a U.S.-backed plan for a Palestinian state by 2005.

Ibrahim Hilal, Al-Jazeera's editor-in-chief, told The Associated Press the network received the message Sunday. However, he declined to reveal how it was delivered.

Hilal said he was certain the voice on the tape was bin Laden's.

"It is bin Laden's superb and special Arabic language that is very hard to emulate," Hilal said. "It is undoubtedly his voice, his style, and the typical examples from history he uses."

The original message was 47 minutes long but the network aired only 14 minutes, Hilal said.

In those excerpts, the speaker urged Muslims to "liberate the Islamic world from the military occupation of the Crusaders."

He said Gulf countries have given in to U.S. pressures "thinking that would not open the door for toppling of the dictatorial regimes by military force from outside, especially after they saw the capture of their previous comrade in treachery, a hireling of America," referring to Saddam.

The speaker criticized leaders of Muslim nations for refusing to pressure the United States on the Palestinian issue and for not supporting the Palestinian resistance.

He also criticized Gulf countries for receiving members of the U.S.-appointed interim Iraqi Governing Council.

He said the "big powers" were trying to control the region for its oil.

"The occupation of Iraq is the beginning of the full occupation of the other Gulf states. ... The Gulf is the key for control of the world in the point of view of the big powers because of the presence of the biggest deposits of oil."

British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said Monday in London that he had no confirmation that the voice on the tape was bin Laden's but that it was a safe assumption.

"There is no question that the al-Qaida organization and its networks are still around. And so far as we know, Osama bin Laden is still alive," Straw told British Broadcasting Corp. radio.

Al-Jazeera last broadcast an audiotape purportedly from bin Laden in October. CIA analysts examining that tape concluded it probably was authentic.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: audiotape; binladen; bintladen; elvisbinladen; fsh604; orangealert4; uta141
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To: Arkinsaw
You can't just assume that any Demo candidate is a sure victim. We thought that about Gore. I mean seriously....how many people thought so many Americans would vote for Gore?

The Dems had over 100% turnout in some urban areas. Can you say "fraud"?

141 posted on 01/05/2004 10:52:45 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
All of those were tiny threads with only a couple of people per thread claiming he was dead. That's not very many on a site with tens of thousands of members. Blink and you would've missed them. You exaggerated about the number of freepers claiming his was dead. It wasn't very many at all.

Spin it however you want. I conducted two cursory searches and found cartoons, "weekend at Bernies", "He's Dead Jim", "He's toast", "Where's the video tape", from a variety of freepers in a variety of threads. My point that the current Osama "He's dead Jim!" crowd are reminiscent of the Saddam "He's dead Jim" crowd is unchanged.
142 posted on 01/06/2004 12:18:57 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Arkinsaw
But you still said there were "so many". There weren't many.
143 posted on 01/06/2004 12:21:51 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
How can you fight for dead votes? That is Zogby's special sauce and why he makes adjustments on the very last day.

Well, there were "lots" of folks, and I would suggest a "majority" of folks, telling me that Zogby was full of crap and that Bush would win by a landslide. That makes Zogby right and freepers wrong regardless of what the special sauce was. His special sauce was a lot more realistic than our lack of it.
144 posted on 01/06/2004 12:21:54 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Arkinsaw
But you characterized it as people voting for Gore. It wasn't people voting for Gore, it was fraud.
145 posted on 01/06/2004 12:23:38 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
But you still said there were "so many". There weren't many.

You are still under the misimpression that the threads I listed are all instances. The ones I listed are from two 5 minute searches. A 'He's dead Jim!' advocate shows up on nearly every audio tape release thread.
146 posted on 01/06/2004 12:29:09 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: #3Fan
But you characterized it as people voting for Gore. It wasn't people voting for Gore, it was fraud.

There was lots of fraud thats for sure. But not anywhere near enough to change an electoral landslide into a small margin in Florida. Sorry, more wishful thinking on your part. LOTS more people voted against Bush than we thought would in that election.
147 posted on 01/06/2004 12:31:05 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Arkinsaw
You are still under the misimpression that the threads I listed are all instances. The ones I listed are from two 5 minute searches. A 'He's dead Jim!' advocate shows up on nearly every audio tape release thread.

Yes, but still it's not many considering how many are here.

148 posted on 01/06/2004 2:27:14 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: Arkinsaw
There was lots of fraud thats for sure. But not anywhere near enough to change an electoral landslide into a small margin in Florida.

I didn't say he would've won in a landslide in Florida. But I think there was about 5 million votes nationwide that were fraudulant that did turn a few states to Gore.

Sorry, more wishful thinking on your part.

No it's 40+ years worth of evidence. You are naive if you think that Democratic voter fraud isn't significant. They wouldn't do it unless they could turn elections with it and they can turn elections with it so they do it.

LOTS more people voted against Bush than we thought would in that election.

Nah, we know who votes against us, they do every election and it's a lot of people. If voter fraud isn't significant, then why do the Democrats scream so much about poll watchers? It's because it works for them. If it works for them, it's significant, significant enough to add 5 million nationwide in 2000. Just think of all the precincts across the country in urban areas that don't have significant Republican representation. It's easy for them to commit fraud. There are hardly any precincts nationwide that are void of significant Democratic representation. This added 5 percentage points to Gore's total popular vote. I think it woke up a lot of Republicans across the nation and it helped us in 2002, I think some Democratic fraud was eliminated. Hopefully that will continue this year.

149 posted on 01/06/2004 2:41:20 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: areafiftyone
Funny how an alleged multimillionaire terrorist mastermind can't afford a videocamera.
150 posted on 01/06/2004 4:25:59 AM PST by Skwidd (Fire Controlman First Class Extraordinaire)
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To: mjaneangels@aolcom
"The only thing in AQ's interest is to prove nothing at all"

Least of all their effectiveness, apparently.

We're getting lots of AQ-as-Superman ideas around here. It looks to me that we're assigning them spot-on plans and motives after the fact. Basically, we're drawing targets around their misfired arrows.

The problem with your theory is that we'll continue hunting for UBL until we have his DNA on a Q-Tip. They must know this.
151 posted on 01/06/2004 5:39:08 AM PST by Tricorn
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To: cpdiii
I think he was almost killed in Tora-Bora. He now has half a face or something--that's why its just audio tapes now. Too bad we didn't get the crumb-bum in the battle. I must give him points for just staying alive with the whole USA and UK looking for him and a price on his head to boot. In the end it will be his own people who do him in.
152 posted on 01/06/2004 4:17:23 PM PST by Hollywoodghost (Let he who would be free strike the first blow)
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To: cpdiii
Yes, OBL is dead. The CIA is almost assuredly evaluating a tape cobbled from those prepared by OBL for distribution in Saudi Arabian mosques sometime during or just after Operation Desert Storm. Just as OBL authored scores of tapes on Afghanistan in the nineteen eighties, so too did he prepare tapes in the nineteen nineties in which he exhorted his countrymen to throw the Crusaders out of Iraq, Kuwait and Saudi.
153 posted on 01/06/2004 4:41:12 PM PST by gaspar
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