Help Block The Rove Amnesty Plan In Congress, Contact These Congressmen

Pubbie | 1/04/04 | Pubbie

[Pubbie]

Fellow Freepers, we need to try to block the Bush Amnesty Proposal that is being prepared to be released on Wednesday, by Freeping the GOP members of the House Judiciary Committee:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A52647-2004Jan3.html

The gist of the Washington Post story is that Bush will propose 3 major components on Wednesday:

1) Give an amnesty to an unspecified amount of Illegal Aliens (Probably a little less than 500,000 people.)

2) Give some sort of Social Security benefits to Illegal Aliens.

3) Create some sort of Guest Worker program.

I believe that if we put enough grass roots pressure on the GOP House Judiciary Committee members (who are listed below) we can have parts 1 and 2 completely removed from any bill in the House, and have part 3 considerably watered down if a large amount of us protest by Phoning/Faxing/E-Mailing the GOP members of the House Judiciary Committee and demanding that they reject the Amnesty (Below is a list of how to contact all members of the GOP House Judiciary Committee memebers).

Now the Buchananites here on FR will no doubt say "The GOP doesn't listen to us/There is no difference between the two parties/ blah blah blah...". But they are wrong, there is considerable opposition within the House GOP to any amnesty for Illegal immigrants.

In August 2001 the House GOP was ready to rebel against the President and kill off the original Bush Amnesty proposal, until the 911 attacks buried the plan.

All GOP politicians (With the apparent exception of Bush and Rove) know very well that illegal immigrants won't vote for Republicans.

Think about it, all politicians absolutely MUST know who is and isn't going to vote for them.

The GOP has studied the 2000 and 2002 Election Exit polls in excruciating detail, and there is no evidence whatsoever that the GOP got any headway in the Latino vote in 2002. Furthermore polls show that no headway will be made by the GOP in the 2004 election.

That is why a number of major Republican politicians in November and December of 2003 have publicly said that there was major hostility to any Amnesty program within Congress.

For Example:

* Texas Governor Rick Perry said (during a meeting with Vicente Fox no less) that there was no support for any sort of Amnesty for Illegal Immigrants in Congress.

* Arizona Senator John Kyl said the McCain/Kolbe Amnesty bill, and other Illegal Immigrant bills, would be impossible to pass in 2004.

* Texas Congressman Lamar Smith (Who sits on the Judiciary Committee) said after the Ridge Trial balloon for Amnesty to all Illegal Immigrants:

"I don't see a substantial change in immigration policy in an election year," said Rep. Lamar Smith, R-San Antonio, a House immigration subcommittee member who has expressed concern that an amnesty program for illegal immigrants could harm national security."

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dallas/nation/stories/121203dnnatimmigration.76a1.html

* And Finally Tom Tancredo said in the same article:

"We have enough support on our side to stop them from liberalizing immigration law," said Mr. Tancredo, R" Colo. "And on the other hand, I don't think I have enough [support] to advance our agenda. So, that's why I think we are sort of at loggerheads."

What we Freepers need to do is, instead of voting for the Constitution Party:

1) Phone up the below members of the GOP House Judiciary Committee Members (Who are all listed below) to complain about this Amnesty plan and tell them not to pass it.

2) Fax these Congressmen to tell them to reject the plan.

3) Email these Congressmen to reject an amnesty.

If enough of us complain, it will help block the major portions of the White House's plan in the House where most Republican Congressmen are already very leary of an Amnesty plan.

PS: In your letters/phone calls/E-mails to the below Congressmen, do NOT use any vulgarity.

Regards,

Pubbie

***REPUBLICAN HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE MEMBERS***

*Chairman Of The Committee, James Sensenbrenner*

Washington, D.C. Office To write about issues pending in Congress, internships, flags, or tours, contact: 2449 Rayburn House Office Building Washington, D.C. 20515-4905 Telephone: (202) 225-5101

My e-mail address is sensenbrenner@mail.house.gov. If you contact me through e-mail, please include your postal mailing address.

*Henry Hyde*

Washington D.C. 2110 Rayburn House Office Building Washington D.C. 20515 Phone: (202) 225-4561 Fax: (202) 225-1166

*Howard Coble*

Washington, DC 2468 Rayburn House Office Building Washington, DC 20515-3306 Phone: 202.225.3065 Fax: 202.225.8611

EMAIL: howard.coble@mail.house.gov

*Lamar Smith*

Washington D.C. Office 2231 Rayburn House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 202-225-4236 202-225-8628 fax

*Elton Gallegly*

Office of Congressman Elton Gallegly 2427 Rayburn HOB Washington, DC 20515-0523 Phone: (202) 225-5811 FAX: (202) 225-1100

*Bob Goodlatte*

Washington, DC Office: 2240 Rayburn House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 (202) 225-5431 (202) 225-9681 fax

*Steve Chabot*

Washington Office

129 Cannon House Office Building Washington, D.C. 20515

(202) 225-2216 (202) 225-3012 (fax)

*Bill Jenkins*

Congressman Bill Jenkins 1207 Longworth Office Building Washington, D.C. 20515 Phone No. (202) 225-6356 Fax. (202) 225-5714

*Chris Cannon*

Washington Office 118 Cannon House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 Phone: (202) 225-7751 Fax: (202) 225-5629 Email: cannon.ut03@mail.house.gov

*Spencer Bachus*

Washington, D.C. Office 442 Cannon Building Washington, D.C. 20515 202 225-4921 phone 202 225-2082 fax

*John Hostettler*

Washington, DC Office 1214 Longworth House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 TEL: (202) 225-4636 FAX: (202) 225-3284

Email- John.Hostettler@mail.house.gov

*Mark Green*

Congressman Mark Green 1314 Longworth Bldg. Washington, D.C. 20515 Phone: (202) 225-5665 Fax: (202) 225-5729

Mark.Green@mail.house.gov

*Ric Keller*

Washington Office:

419 Cannon House Office Building Washington, D.C. 20515 Phone (202) 225-2176 Fax (202) 225-0999

*Melissa Hart*

Washington, DC Office 1508 Longworth House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 Ph. 202-225-2565 Fx. 202-226-2274

*Jeff Flake*

Washington, DC Office Address:

424 Cannon House Office Building Washington, D.C. 20515-0301

(202) 225-2635 - phone (202) 226-4386 - fax

*Mike Pence*

In Washington DC 1605 Longworth HOB Washington, DC 20515 (202) 225-3021 office (202) 225-3382 fax

*J. Randy Forbes*

WASHINGTON DC OFFICE 307 Cannon House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-6365 Fax: 202-226-1170

*Steve King*

Washington, D.C. Office Office of Congressman Steve King 1432 Longworth Office Building Washington D.C. 20515 (202) 225-4426 Fax: (202) 225-3193

*John Carter*

Washington, D.C. Office 408 CHOB Washington, D.C. 20515 (202) 225-3864

*Tom Feeney*

Washington, D.C. Office

323 Cannon House Office Building Washington DC 20515 phone:(202) 225-2706 fax:(202) 226-6299

*Marsha Blackburn*

509 Cannon House Office Building Washington, D.C. 20515 202-225-2811 202-225-3004 fax

[xJones]

Quite simply, we the young taxpaying, conservative citizens of the United States of America no longer wish to bear the burden supporting the medical, educational, and now possibly the retirement benefits awarded to ILLEGAL ALIENS!!!

All right! Why should you pay for illegals who aren't paying a darn thing for you or your country? A real country has real boundaries, right? Or else what is it?

[AmericanInTokyo]

Thank goodness the self-appointed thought police did not show up on this FR thread yet (to my knowledge) with a stupid little disclaimer and warning to two-year olds in an effort to stifle debate on this issue of IMMIGRATION and turn Free Republic itself into a quadrant of "political correctness" so that gauge our every word, striving for mediocrity, and so we don't offend anyone who has thin skin on the issue of ILLEGAL ALIENS.

Go for it, thanks for organizing everyone.

[AmericanInTokyo]

I take back what I just wrote. Just read the whole thread.

[getgoing]

bump...

Starting my calls up again today. First off, The Fort Worth Star Telegram to cancel my subscription - headline front page today - Bush Plan could help immigrant workers.

[Richard-SIA]

(Sigh) I guess my English has become unintelligible of late.

My MAIN point was that people must contact their LOCAL reps.
 "I'm told that, generally speaking, most members of Congress read their faxes, and take phone calls."
Only if you are a constituent. Otherwise they ignore your message, or forward it as I tried to explain.

Not to worry, I will put together my annual vanity post explaining this, again.

[God is good]

Think about it, all politicians absolutely MUST know who is and isn't going to vote for them.

This is the only way. If you do not promise to withold your vote, you have failed just as Bush and the Republicans have failed America. If you do not promise to withhold your vote, you will be a part of the erasing of America's borders.

[norton]

"Since when is the Compost a reliable source in FR?"

Since the whole freaking news world is reporting the same thing.

GWB WILL, repeat - WILL, lose my vote if he goes forward with this.

And I am probably on the "Bushbot" list in several sectors of FR. The guy's done great, done everything I'd ask for, until now. If we are capable of defining Iraq as a significant threat to our security we MUST be able to admit that mexico is as great a threat or more so.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Both Bush and Ridge have flatly denied any plans for a massive amnesty.

There was a time in this country when we did not have this immigration problem, there were two major differences between then and now.

• 1) Massive welfare entitlement programs.

• 2) Mexican migrant workers had the ability to come, work, and go home.

We took away their ability to do that, they opted to stay for fear that they would not be able to get back in, and because the cost of coming in illegally became too high. So now they come, they stay, work, and send money home.

Given a choice, people would rather return home, so if what Bush is doing will give us the ability to A) document incoming workers, and B) keep tabs on their employers, his plan will be a good thing.

[Mamzelle]

re: You lose credibility when you "pester" them about situations that do not actually exist. )))

If we would indeed lose credibility, why would that bother you? I'd think it would delight you, and you would be egging us on.

Methinks you posture.

[RiflemanSharpe]

Emailing now

[Mamzelle]

Rush has been pretty quiet on illegal immigrants throughout his radio career--I think he hangs with the crowd that requires plentiful servants, and probably doesn't mow his own grass, either.

[Don Joe]

Bush and Rove support this? Oh, well. Nobody's perfect.

I hope you're being sarcastic! Reducing this abomination to the "nobody's perfect" category is jaw-dropping.

Hopefully, this can get stopped in Congress. Same goes for the Assult Weapons Ban renewal in 2004.

Hopefully my dog will learn to deposit gold nuggets in the yard instead of his typical stinkpiles. I'd say the odds of that happening are about equal to the two items you mentioned.

[Don Joe]

Their are possibly a few anti-immigration Democrats on the committee, it's good to identify them.

Two things: first, it's not "immigration" that's the problem, it's illegal "migration".

Second, no democrat will pay more than "ear service" to our complaints, because they -- unlike President Rove -- realize full well that the vast majority of the "Illegal Vote" will accrue to their benefit. IOW, as far as they're concerned, the more the merrier.

[Don Joe]

If the plan isn't as bad as the article says, then I don't see that we've lost anything by pestering our Congressmen - it's good to keep them on their toes.

A cold dose of reality: President Rove is convinced that he (and his proxy in the White House) will gain "the hispanic vote", and -- even more than that -- their financiers at the Country Club are insistent in their demands for "cheap labor".

And as far as the "other party", they realize (accurately), that the more illegals in the country, the more they benefit at the polling booth, thanks to socialist "entitlements", efficient machine politics, and most of all, the travesty of "motor voter", made perfect by drivers-license-enabled illegals, courtesy of the Matricula Card, and California's free pass (which Ahnold campaigned against, but now suports, suprise surprise).

In short, the fix is in, on a near cosmic level.

[Don Joe]

I'm a little suspect of "activism" that only includes pestering Republicans......because you say the democrats won't listen.

Me too -- because it seems pretty clear that Republicans won't listen either.

It's sad when you've got to -- in vain -- "pester" your own party to try to wake them from their money-soaked stupor.

[Don Joe]

Ridge answered:

"The bottom line is, as a country we have to come to grips with the presence of 8 to 12 million illegals, afford them some kind of legal status some way, but also as a country decide what our immigration policy is and then enforce it.

That's precisely the same brain-dead "logic" they used about 18 years ago to justify the first "one-time" amnesty. "Let's deal with the reality, let's just this ONE time deal with it, and then strictly enforce our immigration laws."

Yeah, right.

Those laughably few (in the current context) illegals -- a few hundred thousand -- quickly morphed into several million once they brought in their relatives. Now, after 18 years of "strict enforcment", we're sold the same bill of goods? A one-time amnesty (a rose by any name), and then strict-enforcement?

Oh, please. Someone may have just fallen off the turnip truck, but it ain't me, babe, and it ain't anyone I know, and it ain't 80% of the population either, according to Zogby.

If they push this travesty through, it will be proof of one thing: this country is run by rulers, not "representatives". We are subjects, not "the owners of the country".

Welcome to Numerica. Or rather, Hola, Amexica!

[Don Joe]

The only consistently reliable way of getting your government's ear is to pay for it -- and pay generously.

Want to be heard? Then open the checkbook. Open it wide. once those six-digit checks start flowing, you'll have all the government you can afford.

What? You can't afford that kind of money? Tough break, kid. Neither can I.

[hedgetrimmer]

Many of the proposed actions are coming from the summit of the Americas, another of which will be held in Monterrey Mexico next week.

Example from the last summit, with the United States organizing this plan:

Migration

Recognizing the positive aspects and benefits of orderly migration in countries of origin, transit and destination as a factor contributing to economic growth and national and regional development:

Support initiatives designed to strengthen linkages among migrant communities abroad and their places of origin and promote cooperative mechanisms that simplify and speed up the transfer of migrant remittances and substantially reduce the costs of sending them;

Support voluntary initiatives designed by communities or individuals for the use of funds in investment and productive projects benefitting the general welfare in communities of origin;

Promote the discussion of the migration phenomenon at the hemispheric level with due regard for its multi-dimensional nature and regional differences and, in so doing, consider the inclusion of the topic of migration in discussions on trade and economic integration;

Support programs of cooperation in immigration procedures for cross-border labor markets and the migration of workers, both in countries of origin and destination, as a means to enhance economic growth in full cognizance of the role that cooperation in education and training can play in mitigating any adverse consequences of the movement of human capital from smaller and less developed states;

Strive to ensure that migrants have access to basic social services, consistent with each country's internal legal framework;

Create and harmonize statistical information systems and foster the sharing of information and best practices through the use of new information and communications technologies, with the aim of promoting the modernization of migration management;