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To: PhiKapMom; JustPiper; Joe Hadenuf; FITZ; janetgreen; Owl_Eagle; Happy2BMe; DumpsterDiver
"when several illegals got off the train outside the fence at Kelly AFB, went over the fence, and stopped a car to get a ride. It was the Base Commander's car -- didn't take long for those illegals to get a one-way ticket back to Mexico. Even the usual people who condoned the illegals were silent on that one! Normally it took awhile to get people deported -- not this time -- it was immediate."

Yet many members keep saying that the military can't or shouldn't be part of the solution. Actually it's their primary mission and only politics has kept them from doing it. The ACLU, the immigration lobby and their lawyers, the Democrats: none may interfere with our military the way they've sabotaged all other attempts at border control.
159 posted on 01/05/2004 1:14:27 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus (No, I do not want to see the instructions in Spanish. Ever.)
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To: NewRomeTacitus; hchutch
Yet many members keep saying that the military can't or shouldn't be part of the solution. Actually it's their primary mission and only politics has kept them from doing it.

It depends on how you view the problem. Either way, simply sticking the troops on the border is the worst idea.

If it's a problem of enforcing America's laws regarding entry into the United States, then the military, quite simply, has no role in the affair.

If you view this as a hostile regime invading America, then a purely defensive form of war is unnecessary. (The Cold War was necessary only because the USSR had The Bomb. So far as we know, Mexico does not.) The shortest and least expensive solution--in time, treasure, and lives--would be to invade Mexico and perform "regime change."

161 posted on 01/05/2004 1:26:57 PM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: NewRomeTacitus; Sabertooth; Jim Robinson; MeeknMing; JohnHuang2; Happy2BMe
"Yet many members keep saying that the military can't or shouldn't be part of the solution. Actually it's their primary mission and only politics has kept them from doing it. The ACLU, the immigration lobby and their lawyers, the Democrats: none may interfere with our military the way they've sabotaged all other attempts at border control."

Well, a couple of things here . .

Firstly, the Kelly AFB base commander jumping on the situation and correctly having the illegals deported was exactly what he should have done.

I'm sure that within minutes of when he saw the vanload of illegals heading down the road he said to himself, "Give it a week - they'll be right back here again."

As for using our military, only our National Guard forces were ever intended to be used to defend our borders and repel a foreign invasion upon our soil.

The problem is, we are being invaded by a foreign influence, but not militarily. It is a political and economic invasion. Politics and econmics are of course driving forces which have equally been the driving forces which have led to hundreds of wars as long as the historical record will reflect back into the progression of civilization.

Since we are not being invaded militarily and only politically and econmically, there has yet to be a strong enough uprising within the United States citizenry to forcefully compel our elected government to bring an end to this historic onslaught.

We all know the problem, there is just nobody acting on our behalf within our elected government to do anything about it.

I've said all along that the reason this condition exists revolves around one thing - MONEY.

Well, money and greed I should say.

And for that reason I submit to all here on FR that the root of the entire illegal immigration problem is not the problem of Mexico or a single one of the illegal Mexicans entering this country illegally to find work and improve their standard of living.

Unless and until our government begins to act on the behalf of our national sovergnty by punishing corporations and businesses hiring the illegal immigrants, the problem will only continue to fester into a deeper and deeper national crisis.

We are not being invaded by a foreign power, we - THE CITIZENRY - are allowing this political and economic invasion by our own government to relinquish it's sovergnty by it's own inaction to protect it's borders.

Soltions abound for these problems, yet our governement officials continue to elevate their own political and financial fortunes over the will of the people.

If the government took just half of Sabertooth's 18 solutions to the immigration invasion, we would see drastic relief within the first thirty days of doing so.

Is there anybody here who can influence the state department or the adminstration to listen long and hard enough they will be compelled into corrective action?

In an executive order, we will very shortly see blanket amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants living in this country.

Depending on whose best interests are at the heart of this executive order (native born or illigal immigrants), this order has an historical opportunity to either greatly heal or greatly harm our national unity.

I pray President Bush recieves the wisdom and council he needs to make the decision based on the good for the majority of Americans.

162 posted on 01/05/2004 1:47:47 PM PST by Happy2BMe (2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
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