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To: Bikers4Bush; Luis Gonzalez; Lead Moderator

Indeed, there are many Hispanics who are as adamantly opposed to illegal immigration, but you won't see them spouting off about how abject and despicable and criminal and uppity their people or language or culture or holidays are. That is another reason that threads related to immigration must remain on topic and not drift into Anglo-jingoistic whining and hand-wringing.

143 posted on 01/05/2004 10:31:51 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Well I'm guessing that I can now add "Anglo-jingoistic hand-wringing whiner" to my former list, unless of course you were speaking generally and not specifically.

In my opinion all illegals are "abject and despicable and criminal and uppity" just by the very nature of their crime.

Coming here uninvited and unwanted.
150 posted on 01/05/2004 10:58:51 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Bush and Co. are quickly convincing me that the Constitution Party is our only hope.)
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To: Cultural Jihad
but you won't see them spouting off about how abject and despicable and criminal and uppity their people or language or culture or holidays are.

Well, now, their opinion of language, holidays, and culture may be as you say. It doesn't change their opinion of the people, though. I suggest you come spend a day or two with my daughter-in-law and her family for a real eye-opener. Her dad is of Spanish descent; his family settled in Holbrook, AZ. Her mom is of Mexican descent, her family was 'trapped' on the US side of the border in Bisbee, AZ when that border was closed at the turn of the 20th Century.

Her grandfather took part in the Bataan Death March, escaped and lived to take part in guerilla actions against the Japanese in the Phillipines during the latter years of the war.

Theirs is a very American family and their utter disgust at the effect of illegal immigration and the mean nature of illegal immigrants in Arizona is palpably opposed to your observation.

163 posted on 01/05/2004 1:49:30 PM PST by HiJinx (Go with Courage, go with Honor, go in God's good Grace. Come home when you're done. We'll be here.)
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