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To: DLfromthedesert

Well, the issue of undocumented immigration is a different one from thievery or freeloaderism. I look forward to seeing you on any thread condemning, say, tax-evaders or dads who refuse to provide for their own children. Are you claiming that undocumented immigrants are all despicable thieves or deadbeats? That would be an example of bigotry.

104 posted on 01/05/2004 7:27:29 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Are you claiming that undocumented immigrants are all despicable thieves or deadbeats?

Not every person who sneaks into the country is a despicable thief or a deadbeat, but every person who sneaks into this country is in fact breaking the law, ergo a criminal. It's a testament to what a great country we are that we deal with this issue as humanely as we do. In most countries, being caught in the country illegally will get you branded a spy and thrown in prison or shot.

130 posted on 01/05/2004 9:41:26 AM PST by jpl
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To: Cultural Jihad
Are you claiming that undocumented immigrants are all despicable thieves or deadbeats? That would be an example of bigotry

Worse than that, I believe, a huge number of them are Mexican first. They are extremely racist. They have no desire to assimilate into our culture, learn our language and adopt our values. They are turning our country into a spin off of their defunct country.

I don't have a problem with anyone coming here, if they want to work hard and accept the hardships that come with the territory of being an immigrant. That means learning the language. If I immigrated to Russia tomorrow I would expect to have to learn Russian and live as a Russian.

In fact I have lived in foreign countries, I never expected them to speak English to me. I learned the language and went through the painful processes of doing things in a foreign language I could barely understand. And I had no intention of actually becoming a citizen and staying in the country. I didn't litter the streets and associate myself only with American groups or other American's. I respected their laws and culture.

We are fragmenting our society into different groups with different protections and language. A huge, probably close to half, by the time this is said and done, demographic our our society is going to see itself as Mexican first and speak another language. They are completely ignorant of our form of government, have no desire to learn and are easily manipulated due to thier position in our society.

I picked up a free publication at our local library Friday called Barriozona. It was an entire publication devoted to hispanic empowerment, activism and basically socialism. One article was based on the "hero" Che Gueverra. And it was only one of three such free publications available in the library that day.

How can anyone think this is possibly going to end well?

136 posted on 01/05/2004 9:59:15 AM PST by riri
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To: Cultural Jihad
I have nothing personally against ILLEGAL immigrants who are trying to better themselves and are desperated and just want to work so they can feed themselves and their families.

I DO have a problem with those that cross the borders to have their babies and put them on OUR welfare system; THAT is thievery. I have a problem with the people smugglers who abandon people to die in the desert, and I have a problem with Vicente Fox and other Mexican elites who are using OUR country to provide for THEIR people, when they are so rich in their own resources. THEY are the deadbeats!!

I believe we, as a country, should uphold our laws, and if we NEED people to work, we should have them here LEGALLY, and NOT allow businesses to hire people under the table and lay the entire problem on American taxpayers.
142 posted on 01/05/2004 10:29:03 AM PST by DLfromthedesert
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