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Urban Myth Turns Into A Reality On The Streets of San Francisco
San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | 01.03.04 | AP

Posted on 01/03/2004 9:16:31 AM PST by Cathryn Crawford

Urban myth turns into a reality on the streets of San Francisco - Homeless Poet Has Shrinking Fortune

January 3, 2004

SAN FRANCISCO – One of San Francisco's enduring urban myths – the homeless man with the sizable trust fund – turned out to be more than just a figment of the collective imagination.

Lou Dinarde, 68, is a deep-pockets drifter with a drinking problem who reads poetry at North Beach cafes over coffee when he's sober.

However, he spends most of his time polishing off bottles of stronger stuff sprawled out on the sidewalk, with the knowledge he had a $700,000 trust fund in the bank.

The money came from his mother, who died in 1992 after having her assets sold to create the fund.

The cash has dwindled to $150,000, sapped by Dinarde's many stays at local hospitals after being picked up ill or injured, and by his several attempts at sobering up at rehabilitation centers, said the lawyer who helps Dinarde manage bills.

Dinarde has slept on the streets for years by choice, his lawyer said.

"I'm rich, but I like it out here. I ain't sleeping inside," said Dinarde last summer, finishing off his morning vodka in front of St. Francis of Assisi Church. "You can't make me."

His lawyer, Dennis Wishnie, has certainly tried.

Wishnie told the San Francisco Chronicle that he has tried to get Dinarde medical insurance, but was rejected because of pre-existing conditions related to drinking, including cirrhosis of the liver. Dinarde missed appointments to get federal disability medical insurance, the lawyer said.

Dinarde was automatically added to Medicare when he was 65.

He never breaks major laws that lead to prison, and he's not so disabled he can be committed somewhere involuntarily, Wishnie said. "He's a very sweet, very spirited guy," said the lawyer, who has managed Dinarde's money for 10 years.

Wishnie gives him a daily allotment of $80 from the fund, and has tried to put him into apartments, hotel rooms and rehab dozens of times over the years. Dinarde also gets $500 a month in Social Security.

"He just walks away, leaving the key in the door. He's like a unicorn – a magical figure," said Wishnie, who charges Dinarde a modest $1,500 annually to administer the account.

Dinarde has been homeless for about 30 years, since he abandoned his career as a carpenter and moved to San Francisco, where he wanted to write poetry.

Once, 10 years ago, he got a North Beach flat, which he shared with his wife, Kate. The flat caught fire, Wishnie said, and the couple went back to living in the streets.

They were together for 15 years, until his wife died five years ago of a bacterial infection. Wishnie said Dinarde still mourns her "as if she had died yesterday."

Dinarde, who is once again at a rehabilitation center, said he's working on new poetry, but wasn't ready to share it yet.

Instead, he offered up a few verses from one of his favorites, Lord Byron:

"I have not loved the world, nor the world me . . . ," he recited. "I stood among them, but not of them, in a shroud of thoughts which were not their thoughts."

Copyright 2004 Union-Tribune Publishing Co.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: chronicfcukup; homeless; urbanmyth
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To: Scenic Sounds
I did not know that you drink.

I don't drink anything stronger than pop.

'Course, Pop would drink just about anything.

41 posted on 01/03/2004 10:26:35 AM PST by woofer
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To: Cathryn Crawford
" said the lawyer who helps Dinarde manage bills."

I'm not seeing the benefit of his management. I guess the mom or atty did not have a plan to have power of atty over bills, expenses, meds etc.. It can be done.. IE:meds could include the kind that makes him puke when he drinks. :(

42 posted on 01/03/2004 10:31:02 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: Cathryn Crawford
He's not the only well off "homeless" person. In Houston, Clear Channel brought a talk show host to town when they fired all of the conservative hosts.

He saw this man repeatedly sitting on the median strip of Montrose and he worried about him. He eventually talked to the man and learned that he actually did have money and did not want Chris' "help".

I know another area poet/drunk who has been known to panhandle (or at least hit up friends and strangers for sympathy cash) yet there is a lot to suggest that he really is wealthy.

A lot of the 1960s unemployed "radicals" were trust fund kids too.

43 posted on 01/03/2004 12:21:39 PM PST by weegee
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To: Cathryn Crawford
The cash has dwindled to $150,000 [from $700,000], sapped by Dinarde's many stays at local hospitals after being picked up ill or injured, and by his several attempts at sobering up at rehabilitation centers

A bum in this State paying his own medical bills? Now I know that this story is a myth!

44 posted on 01/03/2004 12:24:59 PM PST by Redcloak (°¿°)
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To: Cathryn Crawford
I think the lawyer sounds like a pretty good guy. He has tried to help straighten his client out, but Dinarde is obviously committed to that kind of lifestyle by choice, and he's a lot happier than he would be locked up, which seems to be the only alternative.

$1,500 a year is a VERY small fee for taking all this trouble. Most lawyers charge several hundred dollars an HOUR for their services, and that's just the ones who charge moderate fees. There are plenty of lawyers who could suck up $1,500 in one hour.
45 posted on 01/03/2004 12:25:18 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cathryn Crawford
The cash has dwindled to $150,000 [from $700,000], sapped by Dinarde's many stays at local hospitals after being picked up ill or injured, and by his several attempts at sobering up at rehabilitation centers, said the lawyer who helps Dinarde manage bills.

As opposed to the free emergency room care he could get if he was an illegal immigrant from Mexico. The world is turned upside down.

The bright side of this is that once he's broke, he'll still get free medical care, and his lifestyle won't have to change at all . . . .

46 posted on 01/03/2004 12:33:16 PM PST by JoeSchem
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To: Cathryn Crawford
Does he donate to Free Republic, that's the question.
47 posted on 01/03/2004 12:35:16 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Uday and Qusay are ead-day)
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To: JoeSchem
Uh, he already *is* on medicare ... read that part of the article.

Fact is, the guy is a parasite, just a different sort of parasite from the usual skid row crowd. Living off a trust fund as well as mooching off the social system.

A good question to ask would be: When is the last time this guy drew a paycheck? 1962??? EVER???
48 posted on 01/03/2004 12:39:11 PM PST by WOSG (The only thing that will defeat us is defeatism itself)
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To: patton
Me neither. Complete teetotaler. With lemon.

Ditto. Though I admit sometimes I do kick back and go for a ginger-ale on occasion. Strictly for medicinal purposes, you understand. (grin)

49 posted on 01/03/2004 12:47:09 PM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Cathryn Crawford
There's an easy way to avoid becoming an alcoholic. Just develop a taste for the really good stuff. Then, you can't afford to be an alcoholic. Hey! It works for me (The Macallan Single Malt 35 year old currnet price - $473.06 / 25 year old current price - $282.78).

Besides, life's too short to drink cheap booze.

50 posted on 01/03/2004 1:58:57 PM PST by Action-America (Best President: Reagan * Worst President: Klinton * Worst GOP President: Dubya)
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To: Cathryn Crawford; Thebaddog; Scenic Sounds; slimer; patton; seamole; nutmeg; paul51; Restore; ...
I don't understand why we let people who do not have the ability to make decisions for themselves on the streets.

Why can't we build hospices and have them incarcerated therein (for life if need be)? I know it sounds a little draconian but it is not. People who are by and large homeless have mental problems and are not able to make decisions for themselves and thus forfeit the right to liberty because the ability to choose is a basis of liberty. Homless on the street are a danger to society and thuse even in a free society should become the wards of the state.

We have homeless for 2 reasons. Because (some) civil libertarians think people have a right to be homeless and (some) conservatives don't want to pay for hospice like institutions because it smacks of a Johnsonian Great Society/New Deal socialism (which it is not).

Thus in the friction between these two wrong headed factions a crack develops in the fabric of society in which the mental deficient homeless fall through.

51 posted on 01/03/2004 2:02:11 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
I don't understand why we let people who do not have the ability to make decisions for themselves on the streets.

Why can't we build hospices and have them incarcerated therein?

We have just such a place here in California. We call it the Legislature.

52 posted on 01/03/2004 2:04:41 PM PST by Redcloak (°¿°)
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To: Destro
I don't understand why we let people who do not have the ability to make decisions for themselves on the streets.

Well, I don't know if this guy is mentally ill in the classical sense. He's probably just an alcoholic.

Here in California, we once institutionalized our folks who were seriously mentally ill. Presumably because of the cost, Governor Reagan reversed that policy during his first term as governor. Here's a short quote from his second term inaugural address in 1971: "It is the same in mental health where the number of hospitalized mentally ill patients is half what it was four years ago."

53 posted on 01/03/2004 2:11:46 PM PST by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: Scenic Sounds
Presumably because of the cost, Governor Reagan reversed that policy during his first term as governor.

It happened during Reagan's term but I believe the ACLU was responsible. Hospitalizing people against their will interferred with their civil rights.

54 posted on 01/03/2004 2:22:09 PM PST by Dianna
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To: Dianna; Scenic Sounds
I consider people who are alcoholic/druggies to such a degree that they live on the streets as "bums" or "homless" to be mental deficient. In other words a chemical dependency that they have is so severe that it saps their ability to take care of themselves and also causes them to be a health risk to the public (please know I am not talking about people who have a drink or drug problem they fight to control even if they violate the law in buying illegal drugs).

Like I said, we have homeless for 2 reasons. Because (some) civil libertarians think people have a right to be homeless and (some) conservatives don't want to pay for hospice like institutions because it smacks of a Johnsonian Great Society/New Deal socialism (which it is not).

Thus in the friction between these two wrong headed factions a crack develops in the fabric of society in which the mental deficient homeless fall through.

If Reagan was responsible-the ACLU helped. Shame on both of them. Shame on us as a people for allowing this.

My position as you can see is classic conservative in the Christian tradition.

55 posted on 01/03/2004 2:30:30 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
My dad told me that back in the 70's, a political party (forgive me, I don't remember which one) pushed for and received the right to kick them out on the streets...to save taxpayer money. Clearly there are people who cannot take care of themselves...
56 posted on 01/03/2004 2:33:14 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
The blame falls on Democrats and Republicans equally. It is no suprise that the 70s is when this nation started going down hill morality wise and when we saw decay of our moral and material fabric in full evidence.

What we have now is scum bags on the left that want to teach homeless how to dumpster dump and how to live will sleeping on sewer heating grates and those on the (fake) right that want to not pay for homeless deficient populations (possible lifetime) hospitalization and those on the evil left that would consider this a violation of their rights.

How can we be considered a Judeo-Christian nation when we allow such un-Christian policies?

57 posted on 01/03/2004 2:39:09 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Dianna
It happened during Reagan's term but I believe the ACLU was responsible. Hospitalizing people against their will interferred with their civil rights.

Well, I don't know if the ACLU was supporting him in those days, but it was Governor Reagan who signed the Lanterman-Petris-Short Act, which became effective in January, 1969. Governor Reagan wasn't apologizing in 1971 when he said, "It is the same in mental health where the number of hospitalized mentally ill patients is half what it was four years ago." At least at the time, he believed that, on balance, releasing these people was the right thing to do.

58 posted on 01/03/2004 2:43:44 PM PST by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: paul51
Uh, annually means yearly.
59 posted on 01/03/2004 2:46:48 PM PST by GWfan
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To: Destro
Well, I tend to agree with you. What we've done here in California is to try to use our jails and prisons as a substitute for treatment. At the present time, our current governor is planning to reduce the numbers of people in jail/prison.

It is, of course, said to be all about money, but I'll bet that our failure to provide treatment for the severely mentally ill has cost us more than we've saved.

60 posted on 01/03/2004 2:52:42 PM PST by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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