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Egypt Airliner CRASHED in Egypt - A final update on root cause analysis? Technical Fault Blamed
Various | 1/3/2004 | ME

Posted on 01/03/2004 4:50:17 AM PST by Gorons

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To: thesummerwind
I wonder if the DC sniper -- JAM, knows anything about 587, or might know one or two people on the manifest.
121 posted on 01/03/2004 7:02:27 AM PST by bvw
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To: seamole; eno_; Quilla
Whoa...don't take that quote out of context. Read again and follow the link.

A past event, but in this case, they'll most likely come up with a few 'beauties' (bizarre explanations) over the next 48 hours.......the old out-of control food cart rolls to back of plane destroying tailfin.

123 posted on 01/03/2004 7:06:30 AM PST by thesummerwind (Images of broken light which dance before me like a million eyes)
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To: Quilla
And did you notice, Peter Jennings just sat there and didn't address it- never brought it up again.

Yep, Jennings was a good "coverup" soldier that day. I hate the mainstream media, the most destructive force in this country, the ones responsible for 90% of Americans not knowing the real Hillary Clinton - and speaking of terrorism, can you see The Beast as President?

124 posted on 01/03/2004 7:10:24 AM PST by thesummerwind (Images of broken light which dance before me like a million eyes)
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To: sinkspur
I just found fault with the word "follower". I don't "follow" any man, just the Lord. "Follower" is demeaning, if you get my meaning. ;)
125 posted on 01/03/2004 7:13:41 AM PST by thesummerwind (Images of broken light which dance before me like a million eyes)
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To: bvw
Therefore, mon ami, I think they just won't care. A plane crash in Eygpt, that's not ala mode, no j'nais sais kwa.

LOL ......just feeding the fish.

126 posted on 01/03/2004 7:16:18 AM PST by thesummerwind (Images of broken light which dance before me like a million eyes)
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To: hershey
Well MSNBC just said that there were no distress calls made from the plane. So who is correct? Fox, MSNBC?

My opinion, given the limited facts available - and realizing the dubious, conflicting nature of these "facts" - is that this was terrorism, and that the plane was destroyed by some sort of explosion, either a bomb or a missile. Typically, when a plane explodes for some reason, the pilots don't get a chance to call home and say goodbye. :) Let's see if they ever find an intact body, or if they continue to simply find arms and legs.

This incident strikes me as being quite similar to flight 587, or (except for the altitude difference) flight 800. And, given the all-too-quick denial that this might have had anything to do with terrorism, it also reminds me of the northeast blackout. "Nothing to see here folks, move along now."

Yeah sure... Ok.

MSNBC also noted the interesting fact that Tony Blair was going to that exact Egyptian city for a vacation. A message, perhaps? Regardless, I find it rather bizarre that Blair would choose to vacation in a Middle Eastern country. Aren't there a bit more safer places on the planet to vacation? They did say he did the same thing a year ago, so this is a return trip for him and his family.
127 posted on 01/03/2004 7:33:50 AM PST by asb3pe
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To: thesummerwind
Fox just reported this in their bottom of the hour update. The banner across the screen at the time read MECHANICAL PROBLEM. Apparently they are buying the French report outlined here:

French min says Egypt plane crashed at take-off

128 posted on 01/03/2004 7:35:19 AM PST by Quilla
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To: onyx
Thinking about this a little. Based on any dude in a wheel well as being on a suicide mission, I'm thinking the bomber would install a remote control device to detonate the plane as it was making its' approach. After setting the thing up, he stays in the well, committing suicide. The idea is that it takes a semi-skilled, known person to gain access, by-passing any searches and set this up.
129 posted on 01/03/2004 8:44:43 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: bvw
Good memory!! My thoughts continue that the odd ball anthrax case, Nugent??, was connected to someone on this flight and I'm still opting for Malvo as the little "hit and run" mailer of the anthrax letters in NJ.
130 posted on 01/03/2004 8:48:56 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: All
What's the flight number??

I can't understand the statement that they'll never recover the black box. Where's Jacque Cousteau's son??

131 posted on 01/03/2004 8:51:08 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau; Travis McGee
I've been pondering the same scenarios. I don't know a damn thing about bombs or explosives of any type, let alone detonaters etc.

But, the guys in the wheel wells are factual proof that security was breached, not once but twice, and I know A-Q is also aware of the breach.

I can find no difference between a suicide car bomber or a wheel-well bomber. These cretin give their lives for Allah.

I've pinged Trav --- I think he knows about explosives and what all it takes to detonate 'em.
132 posted on 01/03/2004 8:53:46 AM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: asb3pe
This incident strikes me as being quite similar to flight 587

Get over it - don't you remember the vertical stabilizer that was fished out of the lake?

It's pretty apparent it was a 'materials failure' (fatigue, design failure, etc) on that Airbus.

I'm beginning to beleive all you neophytes believe everything in the world is built of Legos, Erector Sets and Tinkertoys!

Welcome to your world as envisioned, designed and built by Mr. Rogers!

134 posted on 01/03/2004 8:56:15 AM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann Coulter speaks on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: asb3pe
Well MSNBC just said that there were no distress calls made from the plane.

WHY don't you/they find a *pilot* who was in the area also busy w/aircraft ops and on the same tower/control frequency and ask THEM what they heard ...

Conspiracy, conspiracy - who has the conspiracy ... pick a shell - any shell ...

136 posted on 01/03/2004 8:59:29 AM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann Coulter speaks on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: Gorons
Lemme guess, faulty wiring caused fuel tank explosion.

Haven't we heard this one before... Hummm

137 posted on 01/03/2004 9:01:54 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: bvw
knows anything about 587,

Mud - we need more 'mud' slung up against the wall in order to get to see what stucks and finally get to the 'truth' of this matter ...

FORGET science - yeah, FORGET the 'materials sciences'/metallury, the strength of materials and their 'flexure lifetimes' -

- we need more mud on the wall!

138 posted on 01/03/2004 9:02:59 AM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann Coulter speaks on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: TexasCajun
Lemme guess, faulty wiring caused fuel tank explosion.

Haven't we heard this one before... Hummm

Another purported 'armchair aeronautics engineer' expressing his complete lack of scientific discipline.

139 posted on 01/03/2004 9:04:28 AM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann Coulter speaks on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: Gorons
Is Technical problems a euphenism for "Abdullah with a cause"?
140 posted on 01/03/2004 9:04:54 AM PST by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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