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To: GraniteStateConservative
I think this is total hogwash. The Bush team has already invested in electing a Bush-Cheney team and Bush doesn't need to rock the boat with a new VP pick.

I disagree and have felt for a while that Cheney will not be on the ticket, and that after much speculation, Rudy will join as VP and be positioned well to run for President against Hillary in 2008.

Right now, Bush has no legacy in 2008. We really need to fix that.

14 posted on 01/02/2004 9:21:47 AM PST by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: HitmanNY
Conservatives don't want Guiliani as VP because they don't want him as president in 2008. The guys is as liberal as a republican gets and it would be the end of conservatives if he was elected. I would never vote for him for president. If you guys think Bush is too liberal Guiliani would seem like a die hard conservative compared to Guiliani. And Rice could never be elected president in 2008 because she is black. That's just a fact no matter if you like it or not. Cheney has said he plans to stay on the ticket so I don't know what all the fuss is about anyway.
61 posted on 01/02/2004 10:38:47 AM PST by Conservative_Nationalist
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To: HitmanNY
Your scenario makes sense, maybe too much sense ;-)
63 posted on 01/02/2004 10:48:46 AM PST by varon
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To: HitmanNY
Cheney will stay unless he suffers some severe medical set-back. Bush said he's the man. To dump him w/o verifiable medical cause opens Bush up to too many questions, eg, "Are you uncomfortable with Cheney's Halliburton ties?", "Is dumping Cheney indicative of your displeasure with the progress of administration efforts in Iraq or the WOT in general?"....etc.

Rudy is not an option regardless of post 9.11 hero status. He is the quintessential non-team-player, not the sort W. wants to replace a trusted advisor. Rudy is also too polarizing, too ethnic, too Catholic, too liberal for most of the Republican Party to put a heartbeat away. The way he handled the dissolution of his marriage, very heavy-handed and in public, then moving in with a gay friend before going public with his mistress is not exactly in line with mid-America's values, let alone Bush's faith based personal system. And, forget what it would cost in the soccer mom demographic.

Condi has too many un-answered (and as yet un-asked)questions about her personal life. Her known qualifications put her already in the right place. And, if the FR is an indication of conservative mindset, there are still multitudes in America who are generations away from putting a Black Woman a heartbeat away, regardless of qualification.

My bet is a voluntary step-down by Cheney in late 2005 to mid 2006. This gives Bush the chance to pick the 2008 contender and give him a couple of years of grooming. Exactly who that will be I wouldn't hazard except to say I don't think it would be either Rudy or Condi. Folks have proffered Ridge but where's the beef? The borders are still open, and even though there have been no new attacks it would only take one for him to feel the chill.

93 posted on 01/02/2004 11:21:56 AM PST by wtc911 (I would like at least to know his name)
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To: HitmanNY
Well, while I think this article is bunk - as Cheney is definately going to be on the ticket, one thing I can tell you for sure is that should tragic strike, Guliani would not be the replacement.

First, he's pro-choice. For moral reasons, Bush would not set things up for a pro-choicer to be his replacement.

Also, as gay marriage is set to be a major campaign issue, it is absurd to think Bush would run with a guy that went to live with a couplda limp-wristers, post-divorce.
101 posted on 01/02/2004 11:36:56 AM PST by Owens08
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