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Conservative Leader calls Dean Dean Too 'Mentally Unstable' to Be President
Talon News ^ | January 1, 2004 | Jimmy Moore

Posted on 01/01/2004 9:19:32 AM PST by nwrep

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To: eddie willers
Clark is even LESS tempermentally suited for the presidency.

I submit "Help, Mary!" as Exhibit A.

In addition, he has no loyalty to anyone but himself, is also a liar, and has an inflated sense of his intellect and leadership skills.

I also privately think he is another nutso, but we will need to focus on sounding reasonable in our objections.

21 posted on 01/01/2004 9:45:14 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: cajungirl
Flame? You must be confusing me with someone else. I am the epitome of decorum.

I was teasing Marple, who is familiar with my stance on the shortcomings of internet discourse.

What you say is exactly my point. We don't need to be circumspect, but Prudence is the chief conservative virtue according to Edmund Burke.

Some of our exchanges on a conservative site are reasonably passionate -- that's okay if within lawful bounds.

22 posted on 01/01/2004 9:55:24 AM PST by KC Burke
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To: Miss Marple
>>>He is hot-tempered, arrogant, a liar, and willing to ditch any previously held position in order to get the nomination.

I think being hot tempered, arrogant and an outright liar makes Howie Dean emotionally unstable and emotionally unstable individuals aren't fit to be elected POTUS.

23 posted on 01/01/2004 9:59:30 AM PST by Reagan Man (The few, the proud, the conservatives.)
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To: Miss Marple
To the average voter, this writer is saying that a medical doctor, former governor of Vermont, and a presidential candidate is clinically insane.

This is nothing different than what is being said in every back room and party in the country, including in democrat circles. We are all looking at him and shaking our heads in wonder that he got this far. Every party needs one or two people who are not elected (thus if they go to far in what they are saying can be denounced by the party) to be able to throw out what is really being said behind closed doors, basically be the bulldogs of the party.

This does not hurt us in any way, but does let those who are willing to listen understand some real concerns being thrown around.

24 posted on 01/01/2004 10:00:07 AM PST by Lady Heron
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To: eddie willers
> Dean will stumble and fail to get the nomination.

... on the first vote. What Billary wants is for the nom
to be up in the air, so that they can control the conv
and dictate who the candidate will be. Billary will do
whatever it takes to prevent Dean from having it sewn up
by convention day.

They might even encourage loose-cannon conservatives to
attack Dean.
25 posted on 01/01/2004 10:00:21 AM PST by Boundless
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To: Miss Marple
His talk and manner speak for themselves. Some of the pictures of him on the campaign trail are so expressive that without a caption, and without comment, the general population will ask themselves the right questions on temperament and character without prompting.
26 posted on 01/01/2004 10:04:13 AM PST by KC Burke
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To: Miss Marple
THis isn't over-the-top rhetoric, it's something that needs to be said. We've played the nice guy too long and it's left the Dems unchecked to allow the likes of Dean, Daschle, and *shudder* Hillary to take control of the party. The first step in getting people to realize it is saying it.
27 posted on 01/01/2004 10:05:11 AM PST by Sofa King (-I am Sofa King- tired of liberal BS! http://www.angelfire.com/art2/sofaking/index.html)
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To: Miss Marple
you know, this over-the-top rhetoric from our side doen't help

Actually, I hink it is very effective when we use their tools against them. This is the type of thing they do all the time, very sucessfully I might add.

I also think it's great that we are turning the label of intolerance right back at them. Soon, they will be known as the intolerant ones. A label that Republican's had to wear for quite some time.

Only problem with this is that it comes from the "religious right". And as a former northeasterner I know that is a very effective phrase to scare most folks into not listening to anything you have to say.

28 posted on 01/01/2004 10:05:17 AM PST by riri
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To: nwrep
"Perhaps Howard Dean would have been better off in a Unitarian Church, but then he would have had trouble winning any elections as a member of a near atheistic institution."

Wasn't Nixon Unitarian?

29 posted on 01/01/2004 10:06:50 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Reagan Man
But we cannot say "insane". That doesn't quite describe it in terms that the public can think about. We all know people like Dean and we don't call them insane. Temperamentally unsuitable is a better term. And for the record, Dean is not insane nor are the rest of them. They all have personality disorders which is not insanity per se.
30 posted on 01/01/2004 10:07:37 AM PST by cajungirl (I adore the Brits!! Tony Blair is my hero!!)
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To: KC Burke
Thanks,,I didn't mean to flame you. And I have found the ideal term for Dean as I have been thinking. He is NOT CENTERED,,that implies he has something wrong, waffles and appeals to the women of the world who know "not centered" means just a smidgen short of nutso.
31 posted on 01/01/2004 10:09:16 AM PST by cajungirl (I adore the Brits!! Tony Blair is my hero!!)
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To: nwrep
Thanks for the PING.
Unfortunately Dems have shown they will support candidates no matter what they say or how mentally unstable they are.

Remember all the absurd and outlandish stories Gore used to make up? He was a proven chronic liar and he almost won the Presidency. Scarey!

32 posted on 01/01/2004 10:10:52 AM PST by Jorge
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To: Lancey Howard
Quaker,,Nixon was.
33 posted on 01/01/2004 10:11:05 AM PST by cajungirl (I adore the Brits!! Tony Blair is my hero!!)
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To: nwrep
Mentally unstable? That's politics. If changing in mid-stream is unstable - then what was Clinton?
34 posted on 01/01/2004 10:11:41 AM PST by The Raven
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To: The Raven
If changing in mid-stream is unstable - then what was Clinton?

Impeached.

35 posted on 01/01/2004 10:13:53 AM PST by KC Burke
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To: riri
You know the point where al gore lost the election, when it became obvious he was unhinged? we all knew it, some said it and it did not resonate. It was the moment in the debate when he walked over to Bush in this intimidating strange way and Bush just looked at him. Bush didn't say "you looney tune, get outa my space", he just looked and the look spoke volumes. Dukaikis displayed his nuttiness with the question about Kitty. Kennedy displalyed his empty suit with Roger Mudd's famous interview. Dean will be outed but better not by us untill we have to, and not at this stage.
36 posted on 01/01/2004 10:14:16 AM PST by cajungirl (I adore the Brits!! Tony Blair is my hero!!)
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To: Jorge
You make my point, no matter what we said, he was going to win until he outed himself at the debate. Crazy people have a way of letting one know they are crazy without us having to prove it. And by trying to, we look small.
37 posted on 01/01/2004 10:16:23 AM PST by cajungirl (I adore the Brits!! Tony Blair is my hero!!)
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To: nwrep
"It says something about our nation that a great political party consisting of millions of Americans could possibly pick someone as mentally unstable as Howard Dean to lead their party...

First of all, the Democrat Party is not a great party. Not any longer. Once upon a time, there were elements of greatness--facing down threats, cutting taxes, protecting innocent life--but now? Give me a break. The elevation of Dean is the inevitable evolution of the Democrats.

Secondly, this is nothing new. Look at the individuals nominated by that Party since 1972--George McGovern, Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale, Mike Dukakis, Bill Clinton, and Al Gore. Not a worthy man among 'em--the fact that two--count 'em two were able to slip enough lies past the electorate to hold the reins of power is incredible, yes--but not at all unusual for the Democrats.

Finally, Dean's ascendancy should be greeted as good news by Republicans. Fooled by the facade of Clinton's "success", liberals now apparently believe they can fool most (or a plurality) of the people most of the time. They cannot. They'll fail miserably, and though liberalism won't die completely (we have to remember that lesson from '94) it could be sent into deep hybernation--at least politically.

38 posted on 01/01/2004 10:20:08 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: cajungirl
The author's bring up of cheneys lesbian daughter was over the top in my mind.

That line was where I wondered if the whole article was some kind of 'reverse-psychology' operation. You know, when somebody brings something up that most people have completely forgotten about (like me for example)? And then blows it up into a reason that a man like Cheney gets dumped for Chuckie after a weird chain of events....? Well anyways, I'm not sure that I trust the author.

39 posted on 01/01/2004 10:20:30 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Mr. Mojo
As for Dean's children, Murray said, "it gets worse." "The Deans told their children to pick a religion, any religion, and that they would not get involved in their decision one way or the other," Murray lamented.

The two children subsequently chose to become Jewish.

Jewish? How terrible! </ sarc>

No kidding! What would Mr. Murray have said if they became Moslems?

40 posted on 01/01/2004 10:21:45 AM PST by muleskinner ("Oh, please")
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