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"More than ever we need a new international order which draws on the experience and results of the United Nations," the 83-year-old pontiff said at a mass in St Peter's Basilica.

I respectfully disagree.

1 posted on 01/01/2004 5:55:35 AM PST by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000
If anybody should know about the religion of peace's terroristic ways it should be the pope since he got shot by a muslim.
270 posted on 01/01/2004 11:04:13 AM PST by Trytophan Man (Merry Christmas!)
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More than ever we need a new international order which draws on the experience and results of the United Nations
This man is too far past his prime and now advocates for that which would imprison people. How very sad.
272 posted on 01/01/2004 11:13:34 AM PST by Libertina (May God bless us FReepers with abundance and peace in 2004!)
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VATICAN CITY, Jan 1 (Reuters) - The world needs a "new international order" to solve its conflicts and ensure peace, Pope John Paul said in his New Year's Day address on Thursday.

And let me guess...they should wear "Blue Helmets", and their leader will come from the "Middle East"...and their mandate will supercede the US Constitution!

Welcome to the End Times...coming soon!

Hey, Pope...will this new "International Order" have any ability to prosecute Kid-Touching Priests?! Can they bust Bishops, Cardinals and Arch-Bishops for Complicity and Perjury?

I shant hold my breath waiting for that answer!

Enough from this Robo-Pope...just bring on the Anti-Christ and let's get it DONE already! I'm sick of his Rah-Rah cheerleaders here on FR...saying anytime something comes out of the RCC that is antithetical to what the Bible and reality say, that it's just "an isolated incident"...and that any pro-Homo priest propoganda is "just an aberration"....is THIS enough to show that view is misguided? Can we now take off the blinders, and maybe those members of the RCC that are appalled can begin to take back their Church from the "Lavendar Mafia"?!

280 posted on 01/01/2004 11:44:31 AM PST by Itzlzha (The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote!)
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Being the Pope, this man should realize that what he is wishing for will never happen until Jesus Christ returns.
284 posted on 01/01/2004 11:57:38 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell
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To: HAL9000
Did the Pope ever read Revelations?
295 posted on 01/01/2004 12:39:40 PM PST by mabelkitty
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The senile old fart has morphed into Karl Marx. Great, just great.
314 posted on 01/01/2004 1:06:35 PM PST by Beck_isright ("Deserving ain't got nothing to do with it" - William Money)
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"The land in which Jesus was born sadly continues to live in a dramatic condition. And in other parts of the world sparks of violence and conflict have not been extinguished either."

Does even the Pope have to beat around the bush, for the sake of Politcal Correctness?

The name of the problem is "Islamist Terrorism" your holiness.

318 posted on 01/01/2004 1:13:01 PM PST by truth_seeker
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Pope is right. The time has come, long ago really, to disband the UN and start over.
319 posted on 01/01/2004 1:14:21 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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Could someone provide me a source where the Pope condemned the human rights abuses committed by Saddam Hussein?
328 posted on 01/01/2004 1:27:00 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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Well your holiness, you and yours do whatever you wish...we will do whatever we need to do to defend ourselves and our allies. Anyone who gets in the way is fair game.
345 posted on 01/01/2004 2:23:15 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: HAL9000
I respectfully disagree.

Same here.

347 posted on 01/01/2004 2:29:18 PM PST by jwalsh07
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The civilized world tried the soft touch diplomacy on hitler, did it work? The terrorists are many times more blood thirsty than hitler, would a soft touch diplomacy by an impotent UN work? How soon the Pope forget WWII. The terrorist will never be appeased, not until there is only one religion, that is islam and Western Civilization is no more.
350 posted on 01/01/2004 2:51:15 PM PST by desertcry
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Umm ... can anyone say .. Knights Templar??
353 posted on 01/01/2004 2:58:44 PM PST by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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As a Catholic, I think that statement reflects the Pope does not keep up to speed with the actual goings on of the UN or the Pope sees them in light of what they are to represent, not what they ARE!

I am disappointed, yet again he may be trying to avoid a bomb in his compound, one never knows.
373 posted on 01/01/2004 4:13:00 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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Lets clean up your own house before you go any further...
379 posted on 01/01/2004 4:36:36 PM PST by Hotdog
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As a Catholic who is profoundly proud of Pope John PaulII, for many reasons but particularly for his role of the Big Three of Reagan, himself, Thatcher, and his eloquent defense of life and recently MARRIAGE, he has been curiously mushy on international relations and "peace" where he should have a more clear understanding of Reagan's maxim of "peace through strength" which helped free his homeland Poland.

That said, I believe this recent quote and statement can be easily misunderstood from intitial read. The pope can be either blunt or nuanced. In this instance he is being nuanced, I believe.

He, like MOST of us, is fed up with the U.N..... he is calling for the end of the U.N. and a new "order" I believe.

Like most of my fellow freepers, we don't want this new "order" but perhaps the pope can be helpful in making this League of Nations nightmare a thing of the past...
402 posted on 01/01/2004 5:11:31 PM PST by Captain Culpepper
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John-Paul........better read Revelation
413 posted on 01/01/2004 5:23:20 PM PST by pointsal
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Fr Malachi Martin, spoke of the demonic influence within the Vatican, pulling and controlling events. It is beginning to show a bit with this type of thinking.
414 posted on 01/01/2004 5:23:24 PM PST by jeremiah (Sunshine scares all of them, for they all are cockaroaches)
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Why is everyone seeing the glass as half empty...

"More than ever we need a new international order which draws on the experience and results of the United Nations,"

I take that to mean learn from the failure and do nothing nature of the UN and make something better, if anything this is a strike against the UN, if the UN was so great why would the Pope be calling for a new order?

And as the head of the largest Chrisitan denomination in the world it would not be very Christlike for him to call for war and revenge on our enemies, is that what Christ did from the cross?

It is the government's duty to go to war, it is the Pope's duty to call for peace.
438 posted on 01/01/2004 5:47:35 PM PST by battousai (Coming Soon to an election near you: Pasty White Hillary and the Nine Dwarfs!)
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We should push Congress to issue a formal Declaration of Independence from the UN.

It worked when we declared our sovereignty from Great Britian and King George, it's time we did the same to the UN.

442 posted on 01/01/2004 6:01:33 PM PST by StopGlobalWhining (Cheney - Rumsfeld in '08)
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