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Yes, quite a lengthy thread.

WITH A WHISPER, NOT A BANG (Patriot Act II signed by President on December 13, 2003)

There IS some PATRIOT Act opposition on this site, but not as much as probably should be. The responses are usually like:

How have YOU been negatively effected? (CFR won't effect me much, but I still recognize it is wrong!)
They've assured us it will never be used against nonterrorist civilians! (Oh, Hillary wouldn't use it on us?)
(when it already IS used against citizens, by this administration) So what, they were criminals anyway. What do YOU care?
(OR, hands on ears) lalalala I can't hear you!
We haven't been attacked again yet, so it must be working as planned! (Really? Then I have a tiger-repelling paperclip to sell you! It works, I've never been attacked by tigers!)
What are you, some kind of liberal troll? (Because criticizing Bush, Ashcroft, or administration officials = "liberal", of course!
Dammit, this is a time of WAR! (A "war on terror", that was never declared, with no end in sight! Maybe it will last as long as the "war on drugs".)

Thanks Tim and to all who reponded ....
Tim, your dot points were excellent ! They are exactly what I've encountered ....
"How have YOU been negatively effected? (CFR)"
Me: Aagh !!!!

"They've assured us it will never be used against nonterrorist civilians! (Oh, Hillary wouldn't use it on us?)"
Me: Exactly! Friggin Hitlery !

"We haven't been attacked again yet, so it must be working as planned!"
Me: Hm-mm ... would I be ungrateful if I asked about the AMERICAN family kidnapped at gun point on AMerican soil by Mexicans and taken into Mexicao and held ? ? Probably .

"(What are you, some kind of liberal troll? (Because criticizing Bush, Ashcroft, or administration officials = "liberal", of course! "
Me: This is the best ! Call Rush or Hannity and if you express anything that questions the administrations attacks on the Constitution, 'you must be a Liberal !'

"Dammit, this is a time of WAR! (A "war on terror", that was never declared, with no end in sight! Maybe it will last as long as the "war on drugs".) "
Me: Yup, the 'war on drugs'. Now that makes me feel safe !

Thanks again Tim and all !

Forgot one thing .... the Rico lawsuit against Bush, Ashcroft, and Thompson ... Now here is a great opportunity for plea barganing ..... Mr Bush, nobody in their right mind wants a Clinton in the White House. Undo all the bogus, illegal, anti-Constitutional legislation, Executive Orders inclusive .... and we'll let you do community service .....
Here's a link to the very unpublicised lawsuit...
Http:www.tomflocco.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=32&mide=&order=0&thold=0