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Thanks Tim and to all who reponded ....
Tim, your dot points were excellent ! They are exactly what I've encountered ....
"How have YOU been negatively effected? (CFR)"
Me: Aagh !!!!

"They've assured us it will never be used against nonterrorist civilians! (Oh, Hillary wouldn't use it on us?)"
Me: Exactly! Friggin Hitlery !

"We haven't been attacked again yet, so it must be working as planned!"
Me: Hm-mm ... would I be ungrateful if I asked about the AMERICAN family kidnapped at gun point on AMerican soil by Mexicans and taken into Mexicao and held ? ? Probably .

"(What are you, some kind of liberal troll? (Because criticizing Bush, Ashcroft, or administration officials = "liberal", of course! "
Me: This is the best ! Call Rush or Hannity and if you express anything that questions the administrations attacks on the Constitution, 'you must be a Liberal !'

"Dammit, this is a time of WAR! (A "war on terror", that was never declared, with no end in sight! Maybe it will last as long as the "war on drugs".) "
Me: Yup, the 'war on drugs'. Now that makes me feel safe !

Thanks again Tim and all !

Tim, your dot points were excellent ! They are exactly what I've encountered ....

Thank you, Marobe. If you like that, check this post out. It's a list of all the reasons I've seen on this site to vote for Bush, and justifications for everything that has happened... I think you will recognize them ALL. I think I'm just a compulsive list maker.

But MrSmith was right - this latest thing is just (if I read it correctly) just a small PART of PATRIOT II. Apparently they thought there would be too much opposition to just passing PATRIOT II all at once, so they've broken it up into little segments and are sticking those segments into other bills that they are sure will pass...