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Brazil Judge Orders U.S. Citizens Fingerprinted
Reuters ^ | 12-30-03

Posted on 12/30/2003 4:32:55 PM PST by Indy Pendance

BRASILIA, Brazil (Reuters) - A Brazilian judge furious at U.S. plans to fingerprint and photograph Brazilians entering the United States has ordered Brazil to do the same to U.S. citizens, police said on Tuesday.

The order, set to go into effect on Jan. 1, came after a government office filed a complaint in federal court over the U.S. measure aimed at millions of foreign travelers.

"Unless the court order is contested in the justice system, it will be complied with," said a spokesman for Brazil's Federal Police, the agency overseeing immigration.

Starting Jan. 5, citizens of countries such as Brazil who need a visa to enter the United States will be fingerprinted and photographed when they pass through immigration at major U.S. airports and seaports.

The procedure is meant to identify people who have violated immigration controls, have a criminal record or belong to groups the U.S. government lists as "terrorist" organizations.

The checks will not be carried out against citizens of 27 nations who do not need a visa to enter the United States.

"I consider the act absolutely brutal, threatening human rights, violating human dignity, xenophobic and worthy of the worst horrors committed by the Nazis," said Federal Judge Julier Sebastiao da Silva in the court order released on Tuesday.

Brazil currently requires U.S. citizens to have a visa when entering the country.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biometrics; bordersecurity; brazil; judicialtryanny; moronicjudges

1 posted on 12/30/2003 4:32:55 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
I don't want criminally inclined americans terrorizing the Brazilian populace - fingerprint away.

The state knowing that I exist within their borders doesn't bother me... it's the tracking of movements that sends me into a revolutionary fugue

3 posted on 12/30/2003 4:38:16 PM PST by StatesEnemy
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To: Indy Pendance
"I consider the act absolutely brutal, threatening human rights, violating human dignity, xenophobic and worthy of the worst horrors committed by the Nazis," said Federal Judge Julier Sebastiao da Silva in the court order released on Tuesday.

And your response is "me too?" Either you're a silly person embarrassing your bench (probable), or a budding Hitler yourself.

However, feel free to bet your country's relations with the U. S. on the notion that we give a damn what Brazil thinks about American border security.

4 posted on 12/30/2003 4:38:46 PM PST by Snuffington
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To: Indy Pendance
"...worthy of the worst horrors committed by the Nazis

LOL. There sure are some clueless bassturds in this world.

LBT

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5 posted on 12/30/2003 4:39:14 PM PST by LiberalBassTurds
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To: Indy Pendance
Eh, the last time I went to Mexico I had to pay a tax. I'm not sure if the Mexican guy I was with was right, but he claimed it was a response by his government to some tax that Mexicans had to pay to get into the U.S., on legal visas, never mind illegals, we are speaking of those who follow the law.

I have no desire to visit Brazil. If I did, I would have to think about it.

My government has my fingerprints several times over, starting with my enlisting in the USMC.

I'd have to think about it before giving a foreign government my fingerprints.

BTW. Somewhere in the Russian government files is a picture of my backside. I organized a mass-mooning of a soviet surveillance helicopter that was taking pictures of our ship. Mine is the third butt from the right.

6 posted on 12/30/2003 4:41:05 PM PST by LibKill (I love a good french WHINE!)
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To: Indy Pendance
This is obviously Bush's fault for not closing the borders.

</sarcasm>

7 posted on 12/30/2003 4:42:49 PM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Indy Pendance
Given Brazil's murder & kidnapping rates -- many of which are tourist holdups -- who'd want to go there anyway?
8 posted on 12/30/2003 4:46:58 PM PST by Tallguy (I can't think of anything to say -- John Entwistle in "The Kids are Alright")
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To: Snuffington
Saudi overreacted in the same way. IMO, only countries with something to hide get so irrational. Our borders are none of Brazils or Saudis business.
9 posted on 12/30/2003 4:49:38 PM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Tallguy
Stupid ones. Darwinian tourism.
10 posted on 12/30/2003 4:50:59 PM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: LibKill
BTW. Somewhere in the Russian government files is a picture of my backside. I organized a mass-mooning of a soviet surveillance helicopter that was taking pictures of our ship. Mine is the third butt from the right.

HAHAHAHAHAHA! thought I was the only one to engage in such creative forms of communication.

My team mooned a south to north satelite about 3 times in a row first when it was about 20 degrees east, then about 90 minutes later south to north directly over head and 90 minutes after that about 20 degrees off to the west.

Somewhere, some file . . .

TLI

11 posted on 12/30/2003 4:51:04 PM PST by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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To: TLI
You mooned a soviet SATELITE!!!!!

I admit, you have me beat. I am green with envy.

I suppose there are pics of both our butts in the Kremlin.

I wonder what the FRS (successors to the KGB) makes of the freckle on my portside buttcheek?

12 posted on 12/30/2003 4:54:42 PM PST by LibKill (I love a good french WHINE!)
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To: Tallguy
The countryside of Brazil is beautiful. I went there earlier this year and loved every minute. I think the kidnapping fears are the result of media-hype---much like some people in other countries feel about the murder rate in certain U.S. cities and therefore don't want to visit here.

That being said, I don't think this is going to do much to help Brazil's American tourist industry, what little of it there is....

13 posted on 12/30/2003 5:01:00 PM PST by xeno
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To: Indy Pendance
"A Brazilian judge is furious of US plans to fingerprint and photograph Brazilians enter the United States."

OHHHH....a Brazilian judge is furious at us. Am I supposed to lose sleep over this?
14 posted on 12/30/2003 5:05:37 PM PST by Arpege92
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To: StatesEnemy
"I don't want criminally inclined americans terrorizing the Brazilian populace..."

Brazil has been a place where American criminals could flee without fear of extradition. Maybe now they won't be allowed in but instead sent back home to face charges.
15 posted on 12/30/2003 5:33:56 PM PST by beelzepug ("It'll ooze a bit, 'eads do, ya know.")
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To: LibKill
Never said a Soviet satellite, just a satellite, we were well trained to observe and record, but we were not THAT good. Airborne ya know, just good enough....

hehehheheheheh!

16 posted on 12/30/2003 11:46:44 PM PST by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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