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With the activity of this thread I think we need to get Sabertooth's very workable plans posted....

(from sabertooth)

The first order of business, of course, is to enforce existing laws on the books against Illegals and those who employ them. Politicians must be held to account when they pander otherwise.

Then...

1: Eliminate all mention of Section 245(i), even if expired, from the US Immigration and Naturalization Code. No more Amnesty, ever.

2: Get legislation through Congress that would enable States to deny goodies to Illegals, a la Prop #187.

3: Outlaw Mexican matricula consular IDs, and kick banks accepting them out of the FDIC. Legal depositors will withdraw from recalcitrant banks.

4: Beef up Border Security with manpower, resources, and a Volunteer Reserve, if necessary. No troops, and no messing with posse comitatus, this should be a civilian effort.

5: Beef up the immigration courts and set deportation hearings for two weeks after apprehension, with no bail.

6: Run sting operations at day laborer sites.

7: Establish two-way communication between the IRS and Border Security, and start apprehending and deporting Illegals using false SS numbers (no, the current overhyped voluntary program doesn't count).

8: Seize the assets of businesses knowingly hiring Illegals under the RICO Act, as they are ongoing criminal enterprises. Prosecute executives who knowingly hire Illegals.

9: Compile biometric information on Illegals, and declare that they will be permanently ineligible for immigration and citizenship.

10: If the United States declares that the above proposals against Illegals will be diligently enforced after a certain date, many Illegals will leave beforehand, and a relatively small number of well-publicized cases of enforcement throughout the Lower 48 will result in millions of Illegals deporting themselves.

11: End the busting of immigration caps by limiting family reunification to spouses and dependent children, and counting them against the caps when they are brought in. Require all future immigrants to declare their future intent to bring in family upon arrival. This way, families can immigrate in a controlled, orderly fashion without the current deceptions being used against the American public. We must have truth in immigration.

12: Outlaw anchor babies, and give the option to the Illegal parent of taking the child with them upon deportation, or putting them up for adoption.

13: Outlaw bilingual ballots, and resume the English-speaking requirements for citizenship.

14: Establish English skills as a prerequisite for future immigrants. Let's start admitting folks who will hit the ground running toward assimilation.

15: Shut off new immigration to nations that offer dual citizenship. Disqualify current immigrants from those nations from future American citizenship.

16: Make Mexico and Central America our cheap import sources of choice with tariffs on manufacturing from other sources, especially China.

17: In return, Mexico must open up to American investment by allowing the sale of real estate to us and guaranteeing property our rights. Getting Mexico to fix its economy is crucial.

18: Establish a guest worker program where an initial bond is posted by the Illegal and his employer, say $500 each, with more withheld from the Illegal's earning, as security for his departure from the US by the specified date. Guest worker visas must be applied for in the workers' countries of origin, and participants are only eligible to be employed by their sponsoring employer. Violation of these terms will render the worker ineligible for any future visas or residence in the US. Any guest worker program can only come after anti-Illegal measures are in place. Handshake promises of future diligence will not be trusted from any politician of either party, including President Bush.
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(txdoda)
The only things I might add is... "Getting Mexico to fix its economy is crucial" you DAMN right it is. SANCTION them even THREATEN them. Mexico must be brought into the 21 century. If they want a 'good neighbor' they must be a 'good neighbor'.

If the 'most powerful country' can't improve it's own corrupt neighbor, how do we think we're going to improve the rest of the world ???

Illegal Immigration issues effect every facet of the US society and ANYONE who campaigns to END this issue (for good) will win by a landslide.

See #165........I thought I posted it to you also

Wow it only took 165 posts for someone to answer my question. Good post.

2. Get legislation through Congress that would enable States to deny goodies to Illegals, a la Prop #187.

I agree that removing benefits for illegals is the top priority to slowing the immigration.

4: Beef up Border Security with manpower, resources, and a Volunteer Reserve, if necessary. No troops, and no messing with posse comitatus, this should be a civilian effort.

This is just wasted I think. It might slow the assault from Mexico but we have like 8000 miles of border and 88,000 miles of coastline (islands) + shipping + flights. Its not the solution which everyone here tauts as "simple. just close the border".

No 5., 6., and 7. deal with capture and deportation. Again this doesn't work. You can deport a thousand illegals and two weeks later every one of them will be back.

8: Seize the assets of businesses knowingly hiring Illegals under the RICO Act, as they are ongoing criminal enterprises. Prosecute executives who knowingly hire Illegals.

This is interesting however it has the ability to greatly impact our economy (ala a media on-slaught against Wal-Mart in which its very questionable that they knew).

9: Compile biometric information on Illegals, and declare that they will be permanently ineligible for immigration and citizenship.

Excellent -- but I doubt it would have any effect on stopping illegals because their situation often demands the need to try.

10: .....publicized cases of enforcement throughout the Lower 48 will result in millions of Illegals deporting themselves.

I seriously doubt that. They have a lot to lose by leaving and nothing to gain. I didn't see imprisonment -- which I don't think we should be responsible for.

11. and 12. I agree with this only if it provides exclusions. If an American can show that they are able to support the family member and the family member is not eligble for work then I don't see the problem. I.e. elderly parents that will be left alone in Mexico.

13..17 are excellent.

18: Establish a guest worker program where an initial bond is posted by the Illegal and his employer, say $500 each, with more withheld from the Illegal's earning, as security for his departure from the US by the specified date. Guest worker visas must be applied for in the workers' countries of origin, and participants are only eligible to be employed by their sponsoring employer.

Bingo. Further I would say that I don't see a problem if an employer is able to take a case to the federal government and say "look I have business here and I've been trying to fill positions for 2 months and I cannot get anyone to fill them -- I can use some foreign workers." So long as they have proof of their effort then the government should be able to allow the employer to secure the work permit.

There's only one thing missing from that list, that may be the most important tool of all: We must repeal all laws that second-guess employers, landlords, and others, in deciding whom to do business with, on the ostensible grounds of protection from racial discrimination. We don't need those laws anymore (if we ever did at all). All they do is essentially force business owners to sign minorities, whether qualified or not, and that pushes them to sign on immigrants, since that's the cheapest way of achieving "diversity" so as to keep the EEOC and the trial lawyers off their backs.