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DON'T SHOP DAY!!! (In protest of the upcoming Bush Amnesty)
Grassroots Effort ^ | American Patrol

Posted on 12/30/2003 10:55:22 AM PST by libertylass

"DON¹T SHOP DAY" IS CATCHING ON!! COMING TO TV!!

A major TV media outlet will do a story on the January 12th -- "Don¹t Shop Day." They have asked for an interview tomorrow!!! SEE http://tinyurl.com/3h5gn

WE NEED TALK RADIO TO DISCUSS THIS ACTION! We need you to call those talk shows!

Remember these talking points:

WHY?

A. Bush political advisors tell him voters have NO PLACE TO GO to protest his amnesty plans since all the Democrat candidates support amnesty. (See: http://www.washtimes.com/national/20030906-120054-6125r.htm)

HOW?

B. Since they think we have NO PLACE TO GO, we should let them know what they are up to by GOING NO PLACE on January 12, 2004,­ the first day of Bush¹s visit with Mexican President Fox in Mexico City. In other words, don¹t shop, don't go to movies, etc. ­ Stay at home!

NO ONE IS HURT--

C. This is not a boycott. There will be no real economic damage to anyone,­ just a demonstration of our ability to protest. It's a win-win situation!

THERE IS NO SPONSOR--

D. While American Patrol is supporting this effort, there is no official sponsor. It is a true grassroots effort.

WHAT AMERICANS ARE SAYING:

Here is just some of the email feedback:

+++++++++++++++++++++ Everyone is really getting the word out. I think it's going to have a big impact. -- Along the same lines I think we should add: Make No Bank Deposits that day. Do not pay any bills (from the 9th-12th), and no online shopping either. -- Sincerely, Shanna in Arizona +++++++++++++++++++++++++ I did a search for historical events for the days between now and Jan.12th when President Bush will meet with President Fox, and the day when hundreds of thousands of Americans will not do ANY shopping. Tomorrow is the anniversary of the Pledge of Allegiance.

Tuesday is the anniversary of the U.S.- Mexico border. Wednesday is the anniversary of the opening of Ellis Island. We will add another day: January 12, 2004 - the American people protested illegal immigration with their pocketbook. Barbara V. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The no shop day on 1/12/04 could stop Bush dead in his amnesty tracks if it catches on, and I very much think it will. My friends and family are spreading the word fast. The media is always writing about the great economic clout of the Latino lobby to make driver's licenses and Latino benefits happen. This could be a demonstration of REAL economic power that could upstage Bush/Fox in Monterrey Mexico on 1/12/04. This Bush-amnesty counter-measure is a brilliant idea. Suddenly we don't have to be observers watching our citizenship, sovereignty, and laws being thrown away. L.B., Riverside, CA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Glenn Spencer mailto:glenn@americanpatrol.com


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; illegalimmigration; iloveshopping; immigrantlist; protests; shoptillyoudrop; tancredo2004
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To: Bikers4Bush
Would she feel better if they were legal? That's nothing more than an emotional argument.
161 posted on 12/30/2003 12:20:40 PM PST by MattAMiller (Saddam has been brought to justice in my name. How about yours?)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

What 'good rant?'

162 posted on 12/30/2003 12:21:14 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: billbears
Of course the President is against 'amnesty'. It's a spin. This latest plan will move so many illegals into the legal category there won't be a need for amnesty. Therefore he can still be against amnesty and throw the borders wide open.

If that happens, I am in full agreement with everyone on this board. However, since President Bush is known to do what he says, I would defer to his and Tom Ridge's comments on the matter, which clearly and unequivicably stand in contrast to your expectations.

163 posted on 12/30/2003 12:21:50 PM PST by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: Bikers4Bush
She's trying to make a point, not be congenial.

And I think we now know where the Admin stands on her level of congeniality.

164 posted on 12/30/2003 12:22:08 PM PST by Modernman (I am Evil Homer, I am Evil Homer....)
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To: libertylass
With the activity of this thread I think we need to get Sabertooth's very workable plans posted....

(from sabertooth)

The first order of business, of course, is to enforce existing laws on the books against Illegals and those who employ them. Politicians must be held to account when they pander otherwise.

Then...

1: Eliminate all mention of Section 245(i), even if expired, from the US Immigration and Naturalization Code. No more Amnesty, ever.


2: Get legislation through Congress that would enable States to deny goodies to Illegals, a la Prop #187.


3: Outlaw Mexican matricula consular IDs, and kick banks accepting them out of the FDIC. Legal depositors will withdraw from recalcitrant banks.


4: Beef up Border Security with manpower, resources, and a Volunteer Reserve, if necessary. No troops, and no messing with posse comitatus, this should be a civilian effort.


5: Beef up the immigration courts and set deportation hearings for two weeks after apprehension, with no bail.


6: Run sting operations at day laborer sites.


7: Establish two-way communication between the IRS and Border Security, and start apprehending and deporting Illegals using false SS numbers (no, the current overhyped voluntary program doesn't count).


8: Seize the assets of businesses knowingly hiring Illegals under the RICO Act, as they are ongoing criminal enterprises. Prosecute executives who knowingly hire Illegals.


9: Compile biometric information on Illegals, and declare that they will be permanently ineligible for immigration and citizenship.


10: If the United States declares that the above proposals against Illegals will be diligently enforced after a certain date, many Illegals will leave beforehand, and a relatively small number of well-publicized cases of enforcement throughout the Lower 48 will result in millions of Illegals deporting themselves.


11: End the busting of immigration caps by limiting family reunification to spouses and dependent children, and counting them against the caps when they are brought in. Require all future immigrants to declare their future intent to bring in family upon arrival. This way, families can immigrate in a controlled, orderly fashion without the current deceptions being used against the American public. We must have truth in immigration.


12: Outlaw anchor babies, and give the option to the Illegal parent of taking the child with them upon deportation, or putting them up for adoption.


13: Outlaw bilingual ballots, and resume the English-speaking requirements for citizenship.


14: Establish English skills as a prerequisite for future immigrants. Let's start admitting folks who will hit the ground running toward assimilation.


15: Shut off new immigration to nations that offer dual citizenship. Disqualify current immigrants from those nations from future American citizenship.


16: Make Mexico and Central America our cheap import sources of choice with tariffs on manufacturing from other sources, especially China.


17: In return, Mexico must open up to American investment by allowing the sale of real estate to us and guaranteeing property our rights. Getting Mexico to fix its economy is crucial.


18: Establish a guest worker program where an initial bond is posted by the Illegal and his employer, say $500 each, with more withheld from the Illegal's earning, as security for his departure from the US by the specified date. Guest worker visas must be applied for in the workers' countries of origin, and participants are only eligible to be employed by their sponsoring employer. Violation of these terms will render the worker ineligible for any future visas or residence in the US. Any guest worker program can only come after anti-Illegal measures are in place. Handshake promises of future diligence will not be trusted from any politician of either party, including President Bush.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

(txdoda)
The only things I might add is... "Getting Mexico to fix its economy is crucial" you DAMN right it is. SANCTION them even THREATEN them. Mexico must be brought into the 21 century. If they want a 'good neighbor' they must be a 'good neighbor'.

If the 'most powerful country' can't improve it's own corrupt neighbor, how do we think we're going to improve the rest of the world ???


Illegal Immigration issues effect every facet of the US society and ANYONE who campaigns to END this issue (for good) will win by a landslide.

165 posted on 12/30/2003 12:22:14 PM PST by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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To: Modernman
Not that round-up.

Google operation wet-back.
166 posted on 12/30/2003 12:22:46 PM PST by moehoward
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To: Modernman

Exactly so. One has to wonder how many of them aren't really from the Fresno Human Relations Commission.

167 posted on 12/30/2003 12:23:09 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: looscnnn
"Do you want to know what the definition of is is also?"

LOL!

168 posted on 12/30/2003 12:23:18 PM PST by sweetliberty (Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.)
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To: MattAMiller
She would feel better if they had never been here to harm her in the first place.

There's nothing emotional about it.
169 posted on 12/30/2003 12:23:18 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Bush and Co. are quickly convincing me that the Constitution Party is our only hope.)
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To: Naspino
Oh, your one of those types. The poor illegals. Please, I am not terrified of mexicans because I am descended from them. The fact is that they should not be here unless to do it like my relatives did (legally). Then they can pay their dues like the rest of the legal immigrants. All the people like you (pro-amnesty) squeek about protecting the low income jobs that "Americans don't want". Please, there are people out there that would take those jobs just to have an income. How about giving them to teenagers (the Hilton girls, Nicole Ritchie and other spoiled brats like them) could use a dose of reality and hard work to make them appreciate what they have.
170 posted on 12/30/2003 12:23:23 PM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: karen999
Well said!!!!
171 posted on 12/30/2003 12:23:34 PM PST by raybbr
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To: RockyMtnMan
"This is about big business and is ability to be competitve in a future economy. So do we hand our country over to a new generation of immigrants from Mexico or do we deflate the economy to a point sustainable with our current citizenship?"

So sorry to inform you of this, but the handover has already been done.

In 2003, Mexicans are the largest minority voting block.

Informed sources predict that by 2030, if you are a gringo, you will be the minority in this country, not Pedro Gonzales.

172 posted on 12/30/2003 12:23:50 PM PST by Happy2BMe (2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
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To: Sabertooth; All
See #165........I thought I posted it to you also
173 posted on 12/30/2003 12:24:08 PM PST by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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To: Modernman
And I find that pathetic.
174 posted on 12/30/2003 12:25:37 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Bush and Co. are quickly convincing me that the Constitution Party is our only hope.)
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To: libertylass
I think we all need to take a deep breath.

I agree with deporting all people who commit crimes. This should be a no brainer. Let's go even farther by deporting legal aliens who commit crimes. We don't need them here. Being here should be a privelege, and if you are convicted of a crime you should lose that privelege. We have enough trouble with homegrown criminals, we don't need anyone else's.

Finally, it has already been suggested by someone on another post to bill the countries for having to deal with their troublemakers.

The problem is, can this country pull up its pants and get tough?
175 posted on 12/30/2003 12:26:21 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Happy Iraqi Independence Day!!!!)
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To: SunStar
I would defer to his and Tom Ridge's comments on the matter, which clearly and unequivicably stand in contrast to your expectations.

Well I will be participating in this 'don't shop' day, even though it probably won't mean much. And yes, President Bush's actions on this and on more than one other occasion do stand in contrast with my expectations. Especially what I would expect from a conservative

176 posted on 12/30/2003 12:26:33 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: karen999
Get the picture?

I got it. So you've protected the southern border -- what next?

177 posted on 12/30/2003 12:27:08 PM PST by Naspino (Exodus 22: 28 Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people.)
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To: SunStar
If "legal status" means a temporary work permit with fingerprinting, that still doesn't equal blanket amnesty.>>>>>>>

It's is still a REWARD for illegals.......that's why they keep coming by the millions.

See#165 it has some great idea's.
178 posted on 12/30/2003 12:27:29 PM PST by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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To: libertylass
Oh, I was just setting up my 2004 calendar and now I can pencil in:

January 12: Shop till you drop.

Thanks for the heads up. I shall not be participating in this absurd "protest".

179 posted on 12/30/2003 12:28:14 PM PST by cyncooper ("The evil is in plain sight")
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To: libertylass
"Every state has been heavily hit by illegal immigration"

Those that haven't been, will be. Our country cannot sustain the current rate of influx and at the current rate of growth, combined with the steadily declining birth rate along with the dumbing down of the native population, it is just a matter of time until the infrastructure begins to give way. Next thing you know, we'll just be another 3rd world country. I live in Arkansas, which along with Iowa, currently has the most rapidly incresing population of illegals. I have been to Nogales and heard English more widely spoken than in some parts of Arknasas, and it is getting worse all the time.

180 posted on 12/30/2003 12:29:24 PM PST by sweetliberty (Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.)
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