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More stealth as outsourcing picks up speed (cheap labor will get millions of white-collar jobs)
Reuters ^ | Tuesday 30th December 2003 | staff

Posted on 12/30/2003 12:07:17 AM PST by ETERNAL WARMING

More stealth as outsourcing picks up speed

Reuters December 29, 2003, 14:50 GMT

US corporates are shifting more jobs abroad but attempting to keep the practice quiet, according to analysts

US corporations are picking up the pace in shifting well-paid technology jobs to India, China and other low-cost centres, but they are keeping quiet for fear of a backlash, industry professionals said.

Morgan Stanley estimates the number of US jobs outsourced to India will double to about 150,000 in the next three years. Analysts predict as many as 2 million US white-collar jobs such as those filled by programmers, software engineers and applications designers will shift to low-cost centres by 2014.

But the biggest companies looking to "offshoring" to cut costs, such as Microsoft, IBM and AT&T Wireless, are reluctant to attract attention for political reasons, observers said this week.

"The problem is that companies aren't sure if it's politically correct to talk about it," said Jack Trout, a principal of Trout & Partners, a marketing and strategy firm. "Nobody has come up with a way to spin it in a positive way."

This causes a problem for publicly traded companies, which would ordinarily brag about cost savings to investors. Instead, they send vague signals that they are opening up operations in India and China, but often decline to elaborate.

Moreover, on the threshold of a US presidential election year, job losses are a hot-button issue. A company that highlighted a major job transfer could wind up in the campaign debate.

Multinationals find that when they trumpet expansion overseas, they cause problems at home. When Accenture executives in India this month announced plans to double their staff to 10,000 next year, they triggered a flood of calls to the company's US offices about US job losses.

Offshoring companies "are paying Chinese wages and selling at US prices," said Alan Tonelson, of the US Business and Industrial Council, a trade group for small business. "They're not creating better living standards for America."

The US sales director for one of India's top computer services providers said his company has won business from customers such as Walt Disney, Time Warner's CNN and the Fox division of News Corporation -- none of which wants public disclosure.

In India, some technology companies have recently adopted lower profiles. Microsoft has been removing its name from minibuses used to ferry engineers on overnight shifts. Major Indian beneficiaries of US business such as Infosys Technologies, Wipro and Satyam Computer Services have stopped identifying new customers.

While there have been reports that IBM intends to ship 4,700 high-end jobs to India and China next year, they mark a rare instance when figures "have been reported in black and white," said Linda Guyer, president of Alliance+IBM, a union that has tried to organise IBM employees.

Those numbers were not released by IBM, but rather disclosed by The Wall Street Journal, which had obtained an internal memo. The company has declined to comment.

Guyer believes as many as 40,000 of IBM's 160,000 US jobs will be transferred overseas by 2005, a figure that she says was gathered from phone calls by IBM employees.

Previously, IBM has pointed to a report by the McKinsey Global Institute that concludes the US economy ultimately will benefit. The report was commissioned by Nasscom, a group made up of Indian tech companies as well as IBM's Indian services unit -- showing an effort by those invested in offshoring to sway public opinion.

Recently, AT&T Wireless told the US Securities and Exchange Commission that it would lay off 1,900 employees this year. Communications Workers of America members obtained an internal memo prepared by Tata Consultancy Services of India that discussed how it would assume those US jobs.

Subsequently, AT&T Wireless officials acknowledged it was exploring the job shifts but didn't offer details.

While some companies, such as Electronic Data Systems, CAP Gemini Ernst & Young and Sapient, acknowledge they shift jobs abroad to exploit cost advantages and around-the-clock work, IBM asserts that it is not moving jobs but creating new ones.

"It's a business strategy, period. You cut costs. You revamp. You look at what your mission statement says and try to turn a profit," said Sylvia Thomas, who was laid off by chipmaker Agere Systems after declining offers to relocate to headquarters in Allentown, Pennsylvania -- or to Singapore.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: americanjobs; outsourcing; stealth
This policy will continue unless we get a tariff on every good and service entering the country. I'm beginning to wonder if there will be any livable wage jobs left in the USA by 2012. (And of those, how many will be held by American citizens?)
1 posted on 12/30/2003 12:07:18 AM PST by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
"Nobody has come up with a way to spin it in a positive way."

They're obviously not acquainted with the postings of free traitors here.
2 posted on 12/30/2003 12:15:37 AM PST by Tauzero (The Centre is planning a new urea-pricing policy for fresh investments)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
I'm beginning to wonder if there will be any livable wage jobs left in the USA by 2012.

Yes, they're called lawyers.

3 posted on 12/30/2003 12:19:16 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
I wonder how hard it would be to set up and market offshore legal services? You could do almost all legal research (and write all briefs) offshore. You'd have to have US residents to attend court hearings. But most everything else could be done over the communications networks from anywhere in the world.

Given the hourly price for legal work in the US, I'd say this is a great business opportunity.
4 posted on 12/30/2003 12:38:41 AM PST by sourcery (This is your country. This is your country under socialism. Any questions? Just say no to Socialism!)
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To: Tauzero
they are keeping quiet for fear of a backlash

It's definitely time for backlash.
5 posted on 12/30/2003 12:42:36 AM PST by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Thank Gaia! We can always count on Reuters to find something wrong with America!
6 posted on 12/30/2003 1:31:38 AM PST by SubMareener
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
I'm beginning to wonder if there will be any livable wage jobs left in the USA by 2012.

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Don't worry about it. The only thing that counts is that we whopped Saddam Hussein.

7 posted on 12/30/2003 2:26:53 AM PST by RLK
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Who needs jobs?

All the numbers show we're in the midst of a great recovery.

Apparently we've transitioned to a point where we can live well without working.

(They wouldn't be trying to fool us with those numbers, would they?)

8 posted on 12/30/2003 4:24:07 AM PST by Ed_in_NJ
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To: Ed_in_NJ
This is one of these subject that I can not understand. Who are going to buy the goods in this country if there are less and less jobs. New jobs? Yar but they are leaving also. We are always told we are the people that really buy.I just do not get it.I make an item that they copy in Mexico and sell very cheap. It is done on a line there and I really have a time making a living. There is not one thing I can do about it. Since I am of retirement age it is not to bad but what if I had children to bring up? I know retrain but I like to do this. I could also go to Mexico and work. If they would let me.I am to old to worry now.
9 posted on 12/30/2003 5:11:04 AM PST by sawyer
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To: Ed_in_NJ
Apparently we've transitioned to a point where we can live well without working.

LOL...yeah, that plus my U.S. $20 bill printing press enable me to be pretty financially stable. I did pay a visit to my doctor recently, he suggested me getting a job so that I would get out of the house more often/get more exercise/etc.

/sarcasm

10 posted on 12/30/2003 5:21:28 AM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (if we're not going to act like a constitutional republic...lets be the best empire we can be...)
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To: sawyer
I understand it - we have been sold out.

The individuals that make the big campaign contributions have 'convinced' enough politicos to back things like NAFTA and other deals disfavorable to the US middle class, so they can make even more $$$.

11 posted on 12/30/2003 8:50:13 AM PST by Ed_in_NJ
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