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To: Atlantic Friend
There are several reasons - NONE of which justify the toleration of individuals who violate our borders.

1) There is a need for more workers - lower paid ones - in certain industries in the U.S., as well as in Nursing and high tech fields. Restaurants, farms and other businesses in the U.S. need lower paid workers.

2) The birthrate of native Americans has dropped, due to massive abortion and other socio-economic factors.

3) There is a large and growing Hispanic community in America. Republicans correctly view this community as a potential source of new voters. They INCORRECTLY view tolerance of illegal aliens coming into America as an important issue vis-a-vis native born voting Hispanic Americans and those who immigrated here legally.

4) Tom Ridge is a MEATHEAD who is in over his abilities as Homeland Security Chief, a position in which he is intellectually incapable of functioning. Along with Chrissie Whitman, Tom Keane and Colin Powell, Ridge is one Bush's WORST appointees.

5) Karl Rove. Karl Rove fancies himslef the Metternich of American politics, taking credit for the mid-term election triumph of the Republicans in COngress. It was Republican policies - policies which Rove has neglected in trying to pander to the unreachable American left - which secured those victories. Yet Rove benefitted from them in Bush's view.

6) Americans typically welcome immigrants. We are a nation of immigrants and years ago immigration rules were very loose. Many Americans view immigration, even illegal immigration, as beneficial. This is incorrect. Further, until relatively recently, the U.S. had an immigration rule which favored people coming from countries which comprised the highest percentage of individuals already in the U.S., i.e. favored British. Irish, and other northwestern European groups, and secoondarily other Europeans. This tended to stabilze the ethnic and cultural spectrum in America. When this rule was eliminated, it resulted in a massive invasion from third world countires, predominantly South and American. This is creating lanbguage problems here, among others.

7) The decadent American Christian Churches - the Catholic Church, the Methodits, the Prebyterians, the Episcopalians and Presbyterians mainly - ahve numerous "safe houses" which are, in effect, an underground railroad for brining illegals into America.

8) Local American jurisdictions like New York City and New Jersey which refuse to permit ehir law-enforcement officials to cooperate with Immigration and Naturalization in aprehending these invaders.

9) McCain is an idiot - a dangerous idiot. He gave us a moronic "Campaign Finance Reform bill, which eviscerated our First Amendment. His posture on illeglas is hardly surprising.
10 posted on 12/29/2003 4:05:48 AM PST by ZULU
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To: ZULU
Thanks for gearing me up on US immigration issues. I could not agree more with you, none of these reasons justify that a sovereign country like the USA renounce to border control. The need for cheaper employees shall never exceed the need for national security and cohesion, IMHO.
13 posted on 12/29/2003 4:36:53 AM PST by Atlantic Friend (Cursum perficio)
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To: ZULU
You hit the nail on the head 1) - 10)
39 posted on 12/29/2003 7:38:59 AM PST by Zipporah (Write in Tancredo 2004)
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To: ZULU; Atlantic Friend

Americans typically welcome immigrants.

There are some exceptions--the Irish & Chinese come to mind. Congress actually passed laws prohibiting Asians from entering the country in the mid-1800's. (I believe the Japanese were excluded from this prohibition.) Large numbers of Chinese immigrated/ were brought to this country as laborers on the trans-continental railroad. The Irish who immigrated during the years of the Potato Famine met a lot of resistance (partly because of their religion/ partly because they flooded the labor market) and concerted efforts were made to block them from jobs as in the No Irish Need Apply signs that hung in shopfront windows, etc.

IMO, waves of immigration meet significant resistance. But, at an individual level, I do think that most Americans welcome immigrants w/ the caveat that the immigrants must demonstrate that they want to assimilate into American society, learn our language and and adopt a national identity of being American w/ their cultural identity being secondary to that.

42 posted on 12/29/2003 7:49:08 AM PST by elli1
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