Posted on 12/28/2003 10:40:12 AM PST by jimkress
Edited on 05/07/2004 7:09:41 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
When it comes to federal spending, George W. Bush is the boy who can
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Exactly. I'm willing to give the GOP one last shot (by voting Bush in '04). But if the Prez wins and doesn't appoint conservative jurists and otherwise governs like a conservative, especially if the GOP expands its power in Congress on his coat-tails, then I'll finally throw in the towell. What we've hoped for all these years is finally here -- a Republican President with a Republican majority in Congress. If things don't turn around given that set of circumstances, they never will.
Importnat point.
Your wasting your time.
If Bush attacked Mexico tomorrow some would buy that it's in the name of reducing terrorist threats here.
And they would never wonder why the house of Saud stands, Bekka Valley goes untouched and we are not pursuing Osama and thwe WMD's in Syria!
If Mullah Omar ran on the GOP ticket true repubs would feel compelled to back him.
I am with you. This is the last shot I am giving the GOP. If Bush fails us in the judicial area I am done with the GOP. What point would there be left to vote for them if the SC is under control of radicals for the next 25 to 30 years?
"OK, so why vote? After all, your statement renders the voting process useless."
My statement has no power to render anything useless. It merely points out that the ELECTED OFFICIAL has certain duties and repsonsibilities to the people who elected him. Especially those pledges that he campaigned on. This isn't rocket science here and there's no need to complicate it. Your vote gets the person elected..... what he does after the election is all too often NOT what he pledged to do.
The projected 2005 deficit is actually less percentage wise than was the 1993 deficit under Clinton.
Furthermore, when growth in capital gains picks up, and it has already begun, the deficit gap will close PRONTO. Recall the years, 1998, 1999, and 2000 when the deficit went from 200-plus billion in the red to 200-plus billion in the black, all because of growth in (stock market) tax revenues.
President Bush is making the hard spending choices now with fighting terror and Medicare prescription, and hopefully he will allow the growing economy to close the deficit gap in 2005, 2006, and 2007 WITHOUT boosting spending even further.
To wrap it up, W's spending is not the end of the conservative world as some teeth-gnashers on this forum seem to imply.
Based upon the iron grip on US politics, that the GOP and the Rats have legislatively assured themselves, I have always known that a third party would never have a chance in the US. However, Dubya may single-handedly change all of that. Up to now, he has been able to focus most attention away from his p1$$ poor Domestic Policy, by keeping attention on the war on terror, where he has performed very well. The question is, "How long can Dubya keep up such distractions?"
Once attention turns back to the domestic front, more and more Republicans will begin to realize that many of Dubya's Domestic Policies and initiatives are causing more harm than is made up for by his admirable Foreign Policy. They will realize that ALL true conservatives out there, would have just as good a Foreign Policy, without the excess baggage of an oppressive Domestic Policy. When enough Republicans wake up to that reality, the stage is set for a third party to emerge as a savior. The only problem then, is getting the various third parties to work together, which could be the death knell for any third party.
Even so, I cannot vote for Dubya. His supporters, blinded to his Domestic failures, by his Foreign successes, will point out that he is better than Dean, Kerry or any of the other Rats and that is a correct observation. But, such an observation intentionally fails to consider where you draw the line on what is acceptable and unacceptable behavior. All Republicans would readily admit that both Dean and Kerry are unacceptable. But, if asked who they would vote for, if those were the only two choices on the ballot, most of those Republicans would say that it doesn't matter which one is better and they would write-in a name, before casting a vote for either of those two, so unacceptable are they to Republicans. Well, that's the way I and many other Constitutional Republicans feel about Dubya.
Being better than the Devil is only a virtue if you are not also on the Devil's side. Most Constitutional Republicans don't ask that Dubya be a radical conservative. We know that would not be practical, as such a person would not be electable. All that we ask is that he just be anywhere to the right of center. Dubya has clearly crossed the line between Conservative and Liberal and is now acting like a Democrat, in all ways that count, except his Foreign Policy. He may be better than Dean and Kerry, but he is on their side. Slowly, more and more Republicans are realizing that being a good President means more than just having a good Foreign Policy. IF (and that's a big IF) public attention turns away from Dubya's Foreign Policy between now and the election, and Republicans begin to look seriously at his Domestic Agenda, he could be in real trouble, come November.
One can only hope.
And I won't vote for him for the first time. I hate Big Stupid Government.
Shouldn't you be over on one of those "he's so dreeeemy" Bush picture-licker threads? Surely not here with the adults.
So, how does squandering a trillion dollars of stolen taxpayer money, spent in Bush's latest vote-buying scam, get any more terrorists killed faster?
And how 'bout that assault on the First Amendment, huh? Bush Jr. is a dolt when it comes to limited government and securing the liberties of a free, self-governing people.
Perhaps it is news to you, but OBL and Co. recruit by saying that the U.S. government props up repressive despots like the Saudi govt. to manipulate the price of oil to our advantage (and thereby the disadvantage of the people who live on top of those resources).
Nutjobs can say anything that occurs to them any time they choose. It does not make it true. He would be a murdering savage whether what he says is fact or delusion. We can't base foreign policy out of fear of an international outlaw. If his recruits buy into his argument they run the risk of the consequences.
He wasn't making this argument before we put troops in Saudi Arabia. He wasn't attacking Americans then.
When was that? Before the first World Trade Center blast? It's very convenient to muddle cause and effect, isn't it. To arrive at your predetermined conclusions? I will have to review the rise of Bin Laden, the Taliban and perhaps even Black September, way back perhaps before you were born. My point is that "he wasn't attacking Americans then" rings hollow, and is irrelevant. Other faceless killers were doing it then.
It's very convenient to forget that internvention begets intervention. We'll see in 10 years what the latest round will reap.
Yes we shall, shan't we. I suspect you will as mute then as Janeanne Garofolo is today. Ignorance is ignorance, loud and strident when opportunistic and quiet as mice when demonstrably wrong.
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