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Meat of Infected Cow Found in More States
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| 12/28/2003
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Posted on 12/28/2003 9:03:31 AM PST by yonif
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To: yonif
"Dr. Kenneth Petersen, an Agriculture Department veterinarian, said investigators have now determined that some of the meat from the cow slaughtered Dec. 9 went to Alaska, Hawaii, Idaho, Montana and Guam. Earlier, officials had said most of the meat went to Washington and Oregon, with lesser amounts to California and Nevada, for distribution to consumers."Hello! How big WAS this cow, anyway? I know Holsteins are BIG animals, but...
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posted on
12/29/2003 7:04:13 AM PST
by
redhead
(Les Français sont des singes de capitulation qui mangent du fromage.)
To: Thinkin' Gal
"they have recalled as a precaution an estimated 10,000 pounds of meat from the infected cow That's one hefty heifer."My sentiments exactly. I need to talk to my nephew (he raises the beef we eat in this family)...
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posted on
12/29/2003 7:05:59 AM PST
by
redhead
(Les Français sont des singes de capitulation qui mangent du fromage.)
To: Thinkin' Gal; Kevin Curry
"Although federal officials maintain the food supply is safe, they have recalled as a precaution an estimated 10,000 pounds of meat from the infected cow:
(from 19 other cows all slaughtered" (together)
The problem with hamburger, it's mixed together with many animals.
And that is why hamburger is so hard to stop ecoli and other bacteria. Too many animals processed together.
Eat steak, your chances of getting some sort of diseased meat is very minimal. Plus any contamination is at the surface of the meat, where it can be first washed off, then cooked off. With ground up meat, it's mixed completely through the meat, from a dozens of differant animals.
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posted on
12/29/2003 8:23:45 AM PST
by
FBD
(Where is Global Warming when we really need it?)
To: yonif
Did the Brains make it to several states or just the meat ?
The brains are what is dangerous that and the spinal chord the rest is good stuff !
To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Creutzfeldt-Jakob takes as long as twenty years to show up in infected humans WRT BSE/vCJD: this article is a little old, but....
Monday, May 17, 1999 Published at 12:52 GMT 13:52 UK
BSE 'may never have posed human danger'
BSE-infected beef may have never posed a risk to human health, researchers have said.
BBC Environment Correspondent Robert Piggott reports Their studies seem to suggest it would be extremely unlikely that the disease would pass from cow to cow, let alone from cow to human.
They have now received funding from the Ministry of Agriculture to see if they can confirm their findings.
The UK Government banned some beef products as a result of public health fears, and many countries have banned the import of British beef.
It had been thought that eating beef from cattle suffering Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy - or mad cow disease - could lead to a variant form of the human brain disease Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (nvCJD).
Bacteria threat
The scientists involved in the research claim that CJD is in fact caused by the body's own reaction to a bacterium found commonly in contaminated water and the soil.
Professor Alan Ebringer assesses the impact of his work This, they say, would explain such oddities as the fact that one of the victims of nvCJD was a vegetarian.
If they turn out to be right it would mean that the entire campaign to protect consumers by eradicating BSE - costing £3.5 bn, and wrecking the British beef industry - has been wasted.
The Ministry of Agriculture has offered Alan Ebringer, professor of immunology at King's College London, £250,000 to further his research.
Professor Ebringer told the BBC's World At One programme the work could have wide implications.
"If this theory can be confirmed by further studies it would indicate that meat is safe for human consumption, and there was never any danger of developing CJD by eating meat," he said.
Immune system disease
The principle he is examining suggests that BSE is similar to an autoimmune disease.
Autoimmune diseases are caused by the body attacking itself - immune cells think the body's own tissue is foreign and seek to eradicate it.
Professor Ebringer thinks BSE is caused by bacteria - called Acinetobacter - that are similar to brain cells.
He said: "When antibodies are made against the bacterium there are also auto-antibodies made against the brain tissue of the cow which then leads to the development of a neurological disease we call BSE."
The bacteria could be picked up from water, soil or feed, but a cow would have to be exposed to a lot of it to develop the disease, he said.
Minority position
He admitted that his theories put him in a minority.
Prevailing opinion suggests that nvCJD disease is caused by proteins called prions, and that it is possible abnormal prions could be passed on through infected meat.
Professor Ebringer said his position may have been drowned out by the "prion noise", but he remained undeterred in pursuing his research.
"All discoveries start with a minority of one so that the person who has made the discovery has to convince his colleagues and his peers that his data and evidence can be submitted to peer analysis," he said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/345990.stm
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posted on
12/29/2003 12:59:20 PM PST
by
visagoth
(If you think education is expensive - try ignorance)
To: visagoth
Good find.
I remember hearing about vegetarians.
Also some tribe I can't remember with an abnormal amount of CJD.
Supposedly from how they preppare their dead.
I was merely passing on what I remembered from conversation with a friend some years ago who was part of a research team that provided data to another group who was working on CJD.
In those days, Jacob had top billing and it was called by the scientists I know, Jakob-Creutzfeldt. Wonder when that got reversed.
Anyway, I will see that same scientist real soon and will ask what she knows about this.
Her specialty is MS.
But I've heard speculation that MS might be caused by some sort of infection/contamination too.
To: visagoth
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posted on
12/29/2003 1:23:08 PM PST
by
88keys
(try this link...something's wrong with my machine, and I can't write text other than "tag lines"!!?)
To: Semi Civil Servant; Bacon Man; Hap
Look for great sales on beef soon at your favorite grocery store.
Lucky for us we're steak addicts . . . and Kobe beef doesn't have this kind of problem!
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posted on
12/29/2003 2:11:02 PM PST
by
Xenalyte
(I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
To: Enterprise; Lazamataz
Maybe you can get it from wearing it, and maybe also from kissing someone wearing Mad Cow Brand lipstick.
Well, daimit. What am I gonna do with the Mad Cow Fire Hydrant Red gloss I bought over the weekend?
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posted on
12/29/2003 2:12:19 PM PST
by
Xenalyte
(I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
To: Xenalyte
Tough to look on the bright side. If we try to be optomistic and say let's put some lipstick on this pig, people will ask what we have against a poor defenseless pig. Why subject him to MCD?
To: Enterprise
I LOVE that commercial!
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posted on
12/29/2003 2:16:06 PM PST
by
Xenalyte
(I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
To: 88keys
Thanks... that's a great article.
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posted on
12/29/2003 2:16:32 PM PST
by
visagoth
(If you think education is expensive - try ignorance)
To: Xenalyte
Me too. Courtside seats to the basketball game. Come on, let's put some lipstick on this pig. Great commercial!
To: Xenalyte
Lucky for us we're steak addicts . . . and Kobe beef doesn't have this kind of problem! Yea, a different problem is keeping me away from it at the moment. ;)
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posted on
12/29/2003 2:25:31 PM PST
by
Bacon Man
(Bacon is never wrong but occasionally fried.)
To: Bacon Man
Ah, but Memorial Day comes sooner than we think . . . mmm, phat Kobe steaks and good wine . . .
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posted on
12/29/2003 2:26:57 PM PST
by
Xenalyte
(I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
To: yonif
He said those trimmings were sold to some three dozen small, Asian and Mexican facilities in Washington, Oregon, California and Nevada. Mexican facilities! Here in Arizona, I know that the Mexicans eat "menudo" or tripe. They do this especially after holiday or other parties to curb a hangover (so I'm told! I've never tried it).
g
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posted on
12/29/2003 3:01:20 PM PST
by
Geezerette
(... but young at heart!-)
To: MissAmericanPie
LOL!! Yes, she certainly did get around!
g
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posted on
12/29/2003 3:28:06 PM PST
by
Geezerette
(... but young at heart!-)
To: Ditter
I've seen pictures of cows with this disease, and they can't stand or walk. They describe how they shove them into packing plants with bulldozers or pull them, using truck hoists.
The fact that the farmer is so desperate for every cow/bull/whatever to go to market, that they drag in diseased animals just makes me sick.
I hope that Congress passes a law, because I guess it's going to take Federal intervention, that no "downed animal" is allowed to be put into the food chain - for humans or animals.
I can't believe that this isn't just common sense for the farmer or the meat packer. The concept that diseased and sick/dying animals are processed and turned into food just disgusts the heck out of me.
TNT
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posted on
12/29/2003 9:30:45 PM PST
by
TruthNtegrity
(I refuse to call candidates for President "Democratic" as they are NOT. They are Democrats.)
To: Polybius
Dec. 25th according to the Safeway blurb I heard.
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posted on
12/29/2003 9:31:18 PM PST
by
TruthNtegrity
(I refuse to call candidates for President "Democratic" as they are NOT. They are Democrats.)
To: Enterprise
It isn't just chorizo that has yucky things in it.
Take a look at the ingredients on a package of Scrapple.
As Bill Cosby said, "I don't want to be eatin' anything an animal has done any thinking with, or any digestin'."
I agree.
And why is a sick, downed animal taken to a meat packer in the first place?
Is it going to take Congress passing a law to stop that insanity?
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posted on
12/29/2003 9:52:09 PM PST
by
TruthNtegrity
(I refuse to call candidates for President "Democratic" as they are NOT. They are Democrats.)
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