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French Tipped Off Terrorists
newsmax ^ | 28 Dec. 2003

Posted on 12/28/2003 6:57:30 AM PST by flamefront

The no-shows on a Paris-to-Los Angeles flight that are now being sought by U.S. authorities may have escaped the dragnet due to French authorities quickly announcing that the cancellation of Christmas flights to Los Angeles were ordered for security reasons.

According to a report in the Washington Times, the premature announcement resulted in "a chorus of groans" from the Department of Homeland Security to the White House.

An unnamed U.S. source is cited as saying that Washington believed that the longer publicity could have been avoided, "the greater the chance to catch anybody else who was suspected of being involved. The French announcement caught everyone off guard."

Nine persons on the passenger list for Air France Flight AF068 to Los Angeles on Dec. 24 were questioned and released by French authorities that concluded the detained passengers did not meet any suspect profiles.

However, the U.S. concerns centered on passengers whose names matched those on a U.S. terrorism watch list -- but who failed to show up for the flights, according to the Times report.

Among the no-shows was a Tunisian passenger reported to be a licensed pilot and suspected of having ties to al-Qaeda.

Air France has resumed normal service to Los Angeles.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airfrance; escape; france; orangealert4; parislaxflights
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To: Abcdefg
Old history, I know, but France liberated us from the British.

Not because they loved the colonies, but because they hated (or feared) the British. Now it's the U.S. they hate and/or fear.

41 posted on 12/28/2003 9:51:46 AM PST by Tired_of_the_Lies
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To: SandRat
Well, this just proves that no good deed goes unpunished. We liberated France twice and they've screwed us over and over and over ever since.

Yep. For the matter of that, de Gaulle was sitting in England whining, pissing, moaning (and scheming at the expense of allied unity) while and before we liberated France in WWII.

42 posted on 12/28/2003 9:53:35 AM PST by Stultis
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To: CatOwner
"France is funding AQ. I'd wager on it."

Assuming that the above is true, the only reasonable explanation I could come up with is that the French have been blackmailed by AQ, much like the Saudis.

LOL! Oh, please. No one ever had to blackmail France into supporting evil. It's a niche market they've pursued on their own initiative.

Were they "blackmailed" into supporting the most radical elements of the Hutu in Rwanda (incl with military supplies and deployments of French troops) before, during and after they murdered 800,000 Tutsis? No. They did it because the Hutus were their freely chosen allies in a campaign to increase French influence in Africa's great lakes region.

Were they "blackmailed" into violating their mutual defense pact with the government of the Ivory Coast when it faced a violent islamic insurgency? No. The frogs were doing the blackmailing, or rather punishing the country's president for deigning to award an important government contract to a non-French company.

The French don't need to be blackmailed. They've made an affirmative policy of perfidy.

43 posted on 12/28/2003 10:06:37 AM PST by Stultis
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To: All
Wouldn't be the first time the French " tipped" someone off.


"Karadzic was in the French sector," Clark explains, and seizing him would have "required a degree of cooperation with other powers that proved difficult for some in the US government to accept. There remained rumors of some kind of French connection," he adds darkly, "rumors that have been denied vigorously by Paris."


France's ambassador to Nato has strongly rejected reports that a French military officer tipped off the Bosnian Serbs about last week's failed operation to arrest Radovan Karadzic.


When there is a failed operation it is always tempting to find an excuse

Benoit D'Aboville
French ambassador to Nato
Benoit D'Aboville told the BBC that an alleged telephone conversation between the French captain and a Bosnian Serb police officer, apparently warning the Bosnian Serbs about the imminent operation, "never took place".

He said that the story was made up as an excuse for Nato's public failure to capture the Bosnian Serb wartime leader and the international war crimes tribunal's most wanted suspect.

But a German journalist who broke the story about the alleged leak told BBC News Online that he was standing by his story, which he said had been confirmed by intelligence sources.

Franz-Josef Hutsch, of the German newspaper Hamburger Abendblatt, said Nato's rejection of the reports was "not credible".


Nato launched its largest-scale operations yet to capture Mr Karadzic on Thursday and Friday last week.

Hundreds of Nato troops as well as helicopters and armoured vehicles were deployed to seal off the village of Celibici, near Foca. But Mr Karadzic is reported to have fled the area in the nick of time.

The Abendblatt and the UK's Times newspaper reported separately on Monday that the French officer had given the Bosnian Serb the tip-off about the plan.

The Times carried details of a transcript of the conversation which it said had been monitored by British intelligence.

Franz-Josef Hutsch said his transcript, which was less detailed, had come from another western European member of Nato's Stabilisation Force (S-For), but was not from the British source quoted by the Times.

Both transcripts quoted the French officer as telling the Bosnian Serb policeman: "Foca and its neighbourhood are always interesting for us".

"That the conversation took place is not debatable," Mr Hutsch told BBC News Online.
44 posted on 12/28/2003 10:20:32 AM PST by Headfulofghosts
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To: hummingbird
look fingerprintlessly so to speak....don't look for France but for the Marc Rich's of the world doing Frence bidding
45 posted on 12/28/2003 10:21:48 AM PST by cars for sale
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To: CatOwner
The French are without honor. They laugh in the face of justice. How could they possibly be blackmailed?
46 posted on 12/28/2003 10:39:02 AM PST by FreeAtlanta
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To: randog
(have at it Germany--3's a charm and we promise we'll sit this one out.).

The Frogs have enough nukes to scorch every square inch of Germany, so I doubt the (nukeless) Krauts would want to start anything.

47 posted on 12/28/2003 10:45:11 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: flamefront
The french think they are protecting themselves from the terrorists making a "deal" with them. As history has proven when the "deal" becomes a "demand or else" they think American blood will spill to save their beautiful cities. Sorry frenchy, I will vote any politico out for such abuse.

Jammer
48 posted on 12/28/2003 10:59:50 AM PST by JamminJAY (This space for rent)
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To: prairiebreeze
I wouldn't take that bet, not in a million years! We should break diplomatic relations with France, imo. Not that I think that would wake them up, or even that I would want to wake them up. I don't. But we might as well start preparing the world for what's coming . . . WW4 -- with France on the wrong side.
49 posted on 12/28/2003 11:00:32 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: SandRat
The Germans, Russians, and whoever can have France. Hell, any two bit island in the South Seas can have them.

We liberated France twice and they've screwed us over and over and over ever since. Germany, you now have our permission to invade, conquer, and in perpetuity occupy the French

50 posted on 12/28/2003 11:05:46 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: mewzilla
au contraire. it is simply that all the security and police staff were on their two week Christmas vacation and was simply impossible to recall them to duty for stakeouts, arrests, and questioning.

Mrs VS
51 posted on 12/28/2003 11:59:33 AM PST by VeritatisSplendor
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To: Mr. Mojo
The Frogs have enough nukes to scorch every square inch of Germany, so...

Now that is an interesting comment. I wonder if their is an A Q french nuclear connection, that we don't yet know about. If France really does have that many nukes and the population of France is really as high a percent of muslems as some reports say, then there should be plenty of muslems with nuclear arms clearance. It would take only one or two to be recruited by A Q and take a weapon or two to really mess things up.

An interesting and truely frightening thought.

52 posted on 12/28/2003 12:44:51 PM PST by Robert357
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To: flamefront
<< Air France has resumed normal service to Los Angeles. >>

And every time one of its aircraft enters the USADZ an alert is declared!

Insh'allah.
53 posted on 12/28/2003 1:11:25 PM PST by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: CindyDawg
Assuming no one knows the whereabouts of those wanted persons:
What are the odds that the french are keeping them safely away from US access rather than risk their being interrogated?
54 posted on 12/28/2003 1:21:08 PM PST by norton
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To: prairiebreeze
proxy war by EU against American Hegemony?
55 posted on 12/28/2003 1:22:18 PM PST by King Prout (oh, finding your "core values" in the latest poll, are you, Mr. Dean?)
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To: SandRat
nice frog. but you should feel sorry for the french. they are the only people i know that killed off most of their gene poll with a guillotine.
56 posted on 12/28/2003 1:56:09 PM PST by camas
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To: CindyDawg
What a GOOD idea!
57 posted on 12/28/2003 2:01:58 PM PST by Hotdog
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To: flamefront
Who does France point its nukes at? I would guess they point them at themselves so they can wipe themselves out if attacked.
58 posted on 12/28/2003 2:02:31 PM PST by microgood (They will all die......most of them.)
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To: camas
...killed off most of their gene pool with a guillotine.

Ah yes, the French National Razor. Madame Guillotine gives the closest shaves and haircuts with the greatest of speed.

Feel sorry for them no, never!

In college one of the puns that my history Professor used to utter was that it had just been announced by His Holiness Emperor Charles De Gaulle that France and the US had just signed a new mutual defense treaty; this was learned only moments before it was learned that the German Army was 5 miles outside of Paris and driving hard!

59 posted on 12/28/2003 2:02:49 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: flamefront
Every time I think about changing my tagline, something like this comes along...
60 posted on 12/28/2003 2:04:46 PM PST by redhead (Les Français sont des singes de capitulation qui mangent du fromage.)
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