Fiery Plane Crash Kills 6 (North Las Vegas Airport, Dec 26)

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[BCrago66]

Scary. But I'm thinking if it was a single-engine plane, that makes any crash-into-Vagas-landmark scenario implausible.

[Calpernia]

PING

[Mr. Mojo]

Yeah, a hotel like the MGM Grand would chew up and spit out a little prop plane.

[U S Army EOD]

Six people and a lot of fuel makes a heavy airplane.

[MediaMole]

Sometimes a plane crash is just a plane crash.

[Calpernia]

Thank is very true; but timing and place are factors here too.

One of the suspected terrorist from the AirFrance passenger list was suppost to either land in Vegas or hijack the plane into a landmark there.

Another article out now says small planes may be used to ram passenger planes.

This has to be considered here as well.

[dalereed]

4 adults and 2 childern with a full load of fuel shouldn't be an overload for an A-36 unless they were carrying a lot of badgage, that plane is very weight and balance critical and could well have been far out of CG.

[MediaMole]

Just for reference...

NTSB -- Dec 2003 Aviation Accidents

Prior to this incident, 39 people have died in crashes of US registered aircraft in December. 57 were lost in November.

[U S Army EOD]

We can just speculate. Sounds like he did stall out. Lot of factors, engine not operating at full power, out of balance, time pilot had in that particular aircraft, heart attack----just got to wait until report.

We recently had a crash in Augusta, GA with a very experienced pilot. The maintenance people put JP5 in a piston engine aircraft. He lost both engines at about 200 feet, went into a swamp in about 8 feet of water and he and his wife drowned.

You would never expect that to happen.

[ibtheman]

JP-5 that sounds like a law suit!

[Hoverbug]

JP-5 that sounds like a law suit!

They might try, but I doubt they'd be successful. It's the pilot's responsibility to see that the aircraft has the proper amount of the proper fuel for the flight.

Hb

[U S Army EOD]

They were trying to keep it very quiet.

[U S Army EOD]

How would he catch it??? He could check his guages and sound the the tanks but the wrong type of fuel would be hard to catch. He was going to fly to Mississippi to have some work done on the aircraft. He was the organiser of a big airshow we have every year in Augusta.

[Atomic Vomit]

Terribly written piece. What kind of illiterates are tv stations hiring these days?

College educated, affirmative actioned touchy-feelies who became "journalists" to "change the world", I'm sure.

Geez, disgraceful and haphazard writing.

I'm so happy I turned off the networks and the local stations they broadcast on over 10 years ago!

Mr. Atomic Vomit

[Atomic Vomit]

HA!

I went to the tv station's site to see who wrote such poor copy and, guess what............

......"news reporter" Cindy Cesare was the name on the byline. Whoever she is.

Affirmative action raises it's ugly head once more.

Gotta wonder where the editor was.

Mr. Atomic Vomit

[CommandoFrank]

One of the suspected terrorist from the AirFrance passenger list was suppost to either land in Vegas or hijack the plane into a landmark there.

To hijack an Air France to hit Las Vegas, it would have to divert from 30,000+ feet in altitude. This manuver would be detected immediately and the birds at Nellis AFB would splatter that plane in the desert before it got close to Vegas. This would have been the senario as the suspected flight was not going to Vegas, but rather going to L.A.

The small aircraft in this article was not using the airport next to the Vegas strip.

[LasVegasMac]

This manuver would be detected immediately and the birds at Nellis AFB would splatter that plane in the desert before it got close to Vegas.

FYI - Nellis is a training base. The last operational fighter wing left years ago - 474th.

But I did hear jets in the pattern Christmas day. I say "hear" because it was raining most of the day.

Just so happens that a lot of the training is for pilots that have serious "stick" time already. So, in a pinch, I guess these guys could probably handle most anything - should the need arise.

LVM

[LasVegasMac]

What is the frequency, Kenneth? - I'm sending custom made tin foil hats to each.

LVM

[Hoverbug]

Aviation fuel is color coded. JP is clear, and smells like kerosene (because that's all it is really). Gasoline is colored and smells quite different than JP.

A fuel sample should be taken prior to the flight to check for the presence of water, foreign substance, color and smell during the pre-flight.

As an aside, I don't know how you EOD guys did it. My hat's off to ya!

Hb