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The Nanny State Strikes Again
Fox News ^ | 12/26/03 | William A. Niskanen

Posted on 12/27/2003 3:13:33 PM PST by jimkress

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:38:13 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta, who must have little else to do, has recently urged state governments to pass "primary" seat-belt laws, which allow police to stop and cite motorists solely for failing to wear a seat belt.

And the Bush administration has proposed a $400 million incentive to reward state governments that pass such laws.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cato; nannystate; nutjobs; seatbeltlaws
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To: politicalwit
Why would you start off saying that the Constitution Party looks good to you, and then in the very same paragraph indicate that you're staying home on election day? If you think the Constitution Party looks good, then dammit, vote for them!
101 posted on 12/27/2003 5:41:10 PM PST by inquest (The only problem with partisanship is that it leads to bipartisanship)
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To: Drango
jhbuo igiyg
102 posted on 12/27/2003 5:43:14 PM PST by inquest (The only problem with partisanship is that it leads to bipartisanship)
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To: Drango
Sorry about that. I was testing something out, but didn't intend to hit "post". Accidentally hit it anyway.
103 posted on 12/27/2003 5:44:47 PM PST by inquest (The only problem with partisanship is that it leads to bipartisanship)
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To: ovrtaxt
I would prefer a law that says 'If you get in to a wreck, and you didn't wear a seatbelt/ helmet, and you live, you are entitled to NO government help or compensation of any kind.

Ah, but then the nanny-staters wouldn't have a convenient *ahem*justification for controlling every little detail of our lives.

104 posted on 12/27/2003 5:46:22 PM PST by Sandy
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To: Drango
Support nutjobs...

So from this should I conclude that you enjoy the thought of womb to tomb care provided by an omnipotent nanny state?

Regards

J.R.

105 posted on 12/27/2003 5:47:00 PM PST by NMC EXP (Choose one: [a] party [b] principle.)
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To: BSunday
feminazi's are WINO's

Hahah! Good one.

106 posted on 12/27/2003 5:50:02 PM PST by Sandy
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To: RLK
Telescreens in our homes will be next.

Good point.

I wonder what percentage of hardcore republicans know what a telescreen is?

Regards

J.R.

107 posted on 12/27/2003 5:50:06 PM PST by NMC EXP (Choose one: [a] party [b] principle.)
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To: MEG33
..the sky is not falling.We have a threat and it isn't Bush...

You're taking the easy option, Meg. Let's run a litmus test. Do you, or do you not, support this initiative on seatbelts? Just a straight yes or no would be great. Cheers, By

108 posted on 12/27/2003 5:50:19 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
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To: Peach
...seatbelts do reduce medical costs for ALL of us when there is an accident. There is no denying that fact.

I'll deny your fact.

Do you have evidence to support that claim?

Regards

J.R.

109 posted on 12/27/2003 5:54:33 PM PST by NMC EXP (Choose one: [a] party [b] principle.)
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To: jimkress
Support the US Constitution Party.

Nope. Ain't gonna risk Howard Dean with a vote for the party of nutbags and fat men.

110 posted on 12/27/2003 5:59:37 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: RLK
Telescreens in our homes will be next.

But of course. Gotta make sure people are living safely. Keeps down costs, doncha know. God forbid we live in a society of self-responsible adults.

111 posted on 12/27/2003 6:02:04 PM PST by Sandy
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To: Peach
We have excellent insurance and an extremely comfortable retirement

A benefit of working in an industry where bad business decisions never result in the loss of a dollar.

You just hand an uncollectable bill to some other customer.

What a racket.

Regards

J.R.

112 posted on 12/27/2003 6:02:48 PM PST by NMC EXP (Choose one: [a] party [b] principle.)
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To: NMC EXP
To deny that wearing seatbelts does not reduce medical costs is to fly in the face of medical and forensic science that has been well established for over 2 decades. If you think I'm going to search the web to prove what has been proven repeatedly for over 20 years, think again!
113 posted on 12/27/2003 6:03:35 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: NMC EXP
Oh, so you're opposed to big business too. Howie, is that you?
114 posted on 12/27/2003 6:04:31 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
...seatbelts do reduce medical costs for ALL of us when there is an accident. There is no denying that fact.

ALL is the operative word in your phrase.

Provide proof that not wearing seatbelts raises the cost of medical care for ALL of us.

Here is a hint: when engaging in debate, do not make sweeping statements such as that unless you can back it up.

Regards

J.R.

115 posted on 12/27/2003 6:09:16 PM PST by NMC EXP (Choose one: [a] party [b] principle.)
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To: Peach
Oh, so you're opposed to big business too

Care to explain the convoluted logic that led you to that conclusion?

Regards

J.R.

117 posted on 12/27/2003 6:10:47 PM PST by NMC EXP (Choose one: [a] party [b] principle.)
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To: jimkress
COINO, not CINO

COnservative In Name Only
118 posted on 12/27/2003 6:10:50 PM PST by RaceBannon
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To: Nathaniel Fischer
A nutjob like Reagan wouldn't stand a chance in the general election.

It's likely that Reagan would not be electable, today.

It's also likely that Reagan, who pulled our Marines out of Lebananon after one bombing, would not have deposed Hussein, as Bush did, either.

119 posted on 12/27/2003 6:12:02 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: politicalwit
not a dimes' difference in the two parties.

There's your dime's worth.

120 posted on 12/27/2003 6:16:12 PM PST by Sockdologer (Sockin' it to ya.)
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