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Federalist No. 81 ``The authority of the proposed Supreme Court of the United States, which is to be a separate and independent body, will be superior to that of the legislature. The power of construing the laws according to the SPIRIT of the Constitution, will enable that court to mould them into whatever shape it may think proper; especially as its decisions will not be in any manner subject to the revision or correction of the legislative body. This is as unprecedented as it is dangerous. In Britain, the judicial power, in the last resort, resides in the House of Lords, which is a branch of the legislature; and this part of the British government has been imitated in the State constitutions in general. The Parliament of Great Britain, and the legislatures of the several States, can at any time rectify, by law, the exceptionable decisions of their respective courts. But the errors and usurpations of the Supreme Court of the United States will be uncontrollable and remediless.'' This, upon examination, will be found to be made up altogether of false reasoning upon misconceived fact.

Insist that Congress remove federal judical jurisdicton from Defense of Marriage Act /Public Law No: 104-199, 342-67 & 85-14 w/Clinton signature and allow each state to choose, or abstain from sodomy.

Article 3, Section 2, Clause 2 In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.
Article III, Section 2 - The Washington Times: Editorials/OP-ED In the 107th Congress (2001-2002), Congress used the authority of Article III, Section 2, clause 2 on 12 occasions to limit the jurisdiction of the federal courts.
Sen. Thomas A. Daschle, South Dakota Democrat, used the exception authority of Article III, 2.2 in order to cut some timber in South Dakota.
Reining In the Court - The New American - July 28, 2003 By simple majority vote, Congress could pass an act denying federal jurisdiction over social issues of any kind, such as abortion, pornography, and homosexuality. This would leave the state legislatures free to enact (or, in most cases, re-enact) laws on those matters reflecting the moral consensus of their constituents. This would leave the well-funded leftist network of legal agitators - the ACLU, et al. - without effective recourse, since they would have no access to their longtime allies in the federal judiciary. Rather than use the judicial system as a detour around representative government, the cultural left would have to contend, on equal terms, in state legislatures.

James Madison, His Legacy: Federalist Papers (FEDERALIST No. 51)

But it is not possible to give to each department an equal power of self-defense. In republican government, the legislative authority necessarily predominates

1 posted on 12/27/2003 3:08:50 PM PST by Federalist 78
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To: Federalist 78
He is correct.

Easiest to have a simple majority vote.

But....the SENATE will turn it into a supermajority of Senators. That is why it MUST be started NOW going into an election year. It would be an awesome way to MAKE Senators stand on the side of angels FOR which of them want to be the one to say "I reject the people's opinion as to what constitute's marriage."

However, Another congress could change it, but with great difficulty.
2 posted on 12/27/2003 3:43:10 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: Federalist 78
Bump.
3 posted on 12/27/2003 4:38:26 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Hic amor, haec patria est.)
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To: Federalist 78
I doubt that a Constitutional Amendment banning nontraditional marriage will ever pass but even if it does it will be repealed within a generation or two. The younger generations overwhelming accept homosexuality. Banning their marriages will only cause the younger generations to rebel and accelerate their acceptance of homosexuality.
4 posted on 12/27/2003 4:52:30 PM PST by LPM1888 (What are the facts? Again and again and again -- what are the facts? - Lazarus Long)
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To: Federalist 78
"Two-thirds of the House and Senate must agree on the proposed amendment before submitting it to the 50 states, 38 of which must approve the change before it becomes the supreme law of the land."

38 states already have defense of marriage laws, and the big polls are showing overwhelming support for the Federal Marriage Amendment.

Our founders put sodomizers to death, and they obviously didn't even imagine that sodomizers would try to legitimize something like marriage between themselves and fight legitimate parents for custody of their children. Our founders would be rallying around this Amendment as we are.

But here's something much more interesting for y'all.

Group formed for gay Libertarians

Outright Libertarians - Issues

Outright Libertarians

Golden Gate Libertarian
Outright Libertarians Support AB205
(California Domestic Partner Rights and Responsibilities Act of 2003)


GayLiberty.org

Ah, heck, just enter "outright libertarians" in a search engine like google.com and follow the gazillion links yourself.
5 posted on 12/27/2003 5:12:44 PM PST by familyop (Essayons - motto of good, stable psychotics with a purpose)
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To: *Homosexual Agenda; EdReform; scripter; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; ...
Homosexual Agenda Ping - marriage protection from News Max. Haven't read it yet...

Let me know if anyone wants on or off this ping list - just ping me~
10 posted on 12/27/2003 6:43:17 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: Federalist 78
Great article. My $.02 on this issue: this is not an appropriate issue for a Constitutional amendment; any bill Congress passes should not ban gay marriage in every state, but should give states the power not to recognize marriages performed in other states. That way, the whole thing becomes a community standards issue.
18 posted on 12/27/2003 7:24:44 PM PST by ellery
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To: Federalist 78
It would be awesome to have 60 or more Republican senators!
Do you think it can happen by 2004? 2008?
20 posted on 12/27/2003 7:38:20 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Federalist 78
Mike Thompson is author of "Preying In School":

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30 posted on 12/27/2003 8:22:20 PM PST by GrandMoM (Rejoice Christ is Born!)
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To: Federalist 78; snopercod; joanie-f; TPartyType; harpseal; redrock; brityank
There is only one Amendment needed at this time, as follows:

The time limit for the Senate to give its advice and consent on all matters proscribed within the body of this Constitution, is thirty days from the instant of the President of the United States making known his nominations and other submissions for such advice and consent under this Constitution. This time limit shall be in effect immediately upon ratification of this Amendment by ...

(so on and so forth).

36 posted on 12/27/2003 9:10:41 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Federalist 78
What I wonder about is the demand by the court that a State legislature write law.

I thought a court could over turn a law, make all pertinent laws null and void, but I didn't know that a court could force a legislature to pass a certain law.

(btw, the Dems in Texas showed us a very powerful tool to obstruct legislation this past summer. )
54 posted on 12/27/2003 10:42:13 PM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: Federalist 78
an overriding majority of Americans to demand a constitutional amendment or something

When did the Constitution become about people? The Constitution is not about people, it is about government.

The overriding majority of Americans would be better served by restricting their demands to the "or something" and leave the Constitution alone.

100 posted on 12/28/2003 8:29:36 AM PST by MosesKnows
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To: Federalist 78
Just a friendly bump. I noticed the comments had strayed a bit from the main point (which of course is perfectly natural), but I think it's always a great point to keep reemphasizing: The problem isn't with the Constitution; it's with the judges. Time to get out the 2-buh-4's.
107 posted on 12/28/2003 4:38:07 PM PST by inquest (The only problem with partisanship is that it leads to bipartisanship)
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