Dean's Osama oops (he didn't really mean it)

New York Daily News ^ | 12/27/03 | JOHN A. OSWALD

[nobdysfool]

Dean flops around like a fish out of water...I think this guy is going to self-destruct.

[San Jacinto]

Does Dean still adhere to the "good old fashioned notion" that Osama will get a JURY TRIAL? I thought that part of his statement was more outrageous than the part about "not prejudging". The dope just seemed to assume that a jury trial is in order here, and everyone else would just agree.

I'm pretty sure that Osama is already dead, but if he were caught alive I am damn sure there is no jury trial in his future.

[Savage Beast]

And this klunk wants to be President of the United States???

The Democrats are reduced to name calling and curses. The best they can do is disagree with anything and everything. All they have to offer is a futile grab for power. What a pathetic, worthless bunch of prostitutes.

[Qwinn]

"Gephardt is the annointed candidate. You heard it here first."

Sorry, beat you to that prediction a while ago ;) Although, actually, nah, come to think of it you're predicting something different from what I did. I don't predict he's the "anointed one", but I do predict he -should- be, from their perspective, if they want any chance to win.

Gephardt is definetly the preferred choice of most of the unions, and that's a -big- thing. But it's not everything. He's not the darling of "the groups" like the feminists, the NAACP, the gay lobbies. And they have at least as much influence as the unions these days on the Dem party.

He would actually probably be the biggest real challenge Bush could face in 2004, since he's at least smart enough not to stick his foot in his mouth every 10 minutes. And most of the most zealot anti-war Dems would probably be able to hold their nose and vote for him just to get rid of Bush. But he -has- stuck his foot in his mouth a few times, and his attendance record for voting (something like 10%?!?) is so horrific that Rove would have a field day with it. I still think Bush would beat him, but he'd probably be the toughest fight out of all the other losers.

If Lieberman won the nomination, most of the Dems would stay home. Bush would win in a landslide. The Breck girl (Edwards) is probably the candidate that would do 2nd best against Bush in the long run, mainly due to the fact that he's relatively charismatic and he's from the South.

Qwinn

[nobdysfool]

Does Dean still adhere to the "good old fashioned notion" that Osama will get a JURY TRIAL? I thought that part of his statement was more outrageous than the part about "not prejudging". The dope just seemed to assume that a jury trial is in order here, and everyone else would just agree. I'm pretty sure that Osama is already dead, but if he were caught alive I am damn sure there is no jury trial in his future.

Agreed. People like that don't seem to grasp the reality that Osama and his ilk have no respect for human life, and would view any such attempt at a "fair trial" as a sign of our weakness. They would respect an execution much more than a trial, because they engage in execution all the time.

It comes from the crazy notion that "people are basically good", even if they become mass murderers. Osama isn't "troubled" or "misunderstood", or a "victim" of some supposed wrong done to him. He's evil, by choice, and by nature. Osama has deliberately chosen the path he's on, he's not "acting out" against some supposed "trauma" done to him early in life.

We can't "understand" evil out of existence, it must be confronted and destroyed!

[Glenn]

mainly due to the fact that he's relatively charismatic and he's from the South

Close -- but no cigar. Edwards is veal. Gephardt is beef. Amercan voters know the difference.

[Tom Bombadil]

This guy flips and waffles more than IHOP.

Should get the new nickname of "slinky".

[arasina]

You mean the, uh...trigger? :o)

[MaryFromMichigan]

Edwards is veal. Gephardt is beef.

Good analogy.

[arasina]

I obviously had my typing fingers on the keyboard trigger and hit Post before re-reading #13. Didn't see sentence #1 the first time around.

[EDINVA]

interesting Dean uses such a silly term as "outrageous" for OBL. He's the angriest of angry men, and he says OBL is "outrageous?" In the Dean pantheon of 'bad guys' I guess OBL just doesn't rank up there with the likes of, say, George Bush.

[Erik Latranyi]

My New Year's Wish:


I wish that Howard Dean does not completely self-destruct until after he has the nomination locked up. After that, his "shoot-from-the-lip" style will sink the Dems even further because they knew what they were getting.

I wish Hillary waits until 2008, so she can be the 'savior' of the Dem party. She does not have to run for re-election, she could announce in late '06 that she is running for Pres. I also wish Hillary endorses Dean so she has one more anchor around her neck for '08.

I wish Karl Rove would run the Dean statement about UBL's innocent until proven guilty thing in NY every day until November.

I wish that Dems like Lieberman, Breaux, Miller, etc completely break ranks with the party and endorse nobody or (like Zell Miller) endorse Bush.

I wish that Governor Schwartzenegger bashes the Democrats in California so badly for their mismanagement that it helps win that state for Bush.

I wish to see a Democrat party one day shun the idea of Bill and Hillary Clinton as anything other than a footnote in history books. The repudiation of the Clintons by the Dem party would be the greatest victory we can have.

[He Rides A White Horse]

Dean figures that the way to get the Democrat vote is to be a totally unscrupulous, unprincipled, liar.

Yes. He is pandering to the extreme left in the Democrat Party (of which he is a member), then will undoubtably soften or retract many of his statements (lie) when he squares off against the President.

[headsonpikes]

"Little Dick Gephardt" appears to be a statesman on the level of Thomas Jefferson compared to the other whack-jobs leading the Demonrat pack.

Dean is a seriously ungrounded man - he's totally unfit for responsibility at a high level.

And who in H*ll would want this nutbar for a subordinate?

At least Gephardt seems clinically sane, unlike the balance of the field.

[mware]

Dean is pathalogical. I'm beginning to think maybe we need shrink evalfor Pres Candidates. Dean is totally nuts

Did you hear Charles Krauthammer on Fox News last night? Said Deans comments put a new meaning to "soft on crime."

[mware]

"He continued: "Bin Laden has admitted that he is responsible for killing 3,000 Americans....."

The paper makes it sound that this comment came with his initial comments about Bin Laden. In fact it came several hours after the initial comment.

[MEG33]

I believe national polls confirm that Gebphart would do better than anyone against Bush(about a 7 point difference in the latest poll.)Part of it may be that he is better known.He needs Iowa to give him Mo against Dean.I, of course, am pulling for Dean!...;)

[tom h]

"Dean figures that the way to get the Democrat vote is to be a totally unscrupulous, unprincipled, liar. He learned all he knows about Democratic politics from Bill Clinton, apparently."

Right on. Did you notice that he now professes to be a believing Christian? When he shows up on Sunday CNN with a huge Bible in his hand, leaving some old church, you will know that his Clintonesque transformation will have been complete.

[Agnes Heep]

Reminds me of an exchange in the movie Dr. Strangelove, between President Muffley and General Turgidson:

Muffley:
There's nothing to figure out General Turgidson. This man is obviously a psychotic.
Turgidson:
Well, I'd like to hold off judgment on a thing like that, sir, until all the facts are in.

[matrix2225]

Hahahahahah LOL, RFLMAO, oh man, this is helerious, LOL.