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To: Landru; sultan88; jla; FBD; goldilucky; MeekOneGOP; BOBTHENAILER; iceskater; putupon
"From Another Thread..."

Indy Pendance: "It's not about sending messages."

I'm sorry, but it is very much about sending messages...the Right must convey to Dubyuh and his inner circle that this outta control spending and growing of the Federal Leviathan is entirely unacceptable and must be reversed immediately.

"It's about changing the way America thinks. For too long we've had liberal control."

True enuff, but Dubyuh's spending spree has undermined the Right's high ground by blurring the distinction between Republicans and DemonRATS with regards to government spending. Unless Dubyuh changes his big-spending ways, the damage to the GOP's reputation for fiscal discipline may be irreparable, and the liberals will have won due to a virtual foreit by the right!!

"Think logically, we can't win anything if we keep fighting amongst ourselves. Imagine the force we can have if we fought like the commies or socialists do to take over the democrat party. Imagine a force if conservatives used the republican party to advance conservative causes."

I couldn't agree more, but Dubyuh's proven to be more of an obstacle to rightward progress than a help when it comes to spending. The GOP ain't worth diddley if it insists upon outspending the Clinton/RAT partnership of '93-'94!! We are the Party of Reagan, who knew in his heart that BIG GUV'MENT IS THE PROBLEM!! Dubyuh needs to embrace this principle, or else the GOP is destined to splinter!!

"Using a third party won't get us jack. Using an established network will get the desired results much faster. You all are missing an opportunity. Use the infrastructure already established, instead of creating a new one. Open your eyes, use the available resources. We have a much better chance than creating something from scratch."

This is my preferred route as well, but as I noted before, a big-spending Bush will make said progress impossible. Dubyuh still has the power to make the necessary changes in philosophy during the upcoming campaign. He needs to get over this ridiculous Amnesty fer Illegals and enforce the laws that protect our borders from invasion. Bush needs to get over this idea that he can win over the Leftists with huge spending increases on such disparate non-Federal priorities as the National Endowment for the Arts, Education spending, and paid "volunteerism." Bush needs to rediscover the wisdom of Thomas Jefferson's words, "Government is best that governs least!!" Once he does that, the Right will flock to his side and the GOP will have regained its status as the Party of Principle...and Bush and the GOP will win next November in an '84-style landslide. If Dubyuh continues on his present path, he may just end up blowing this election, and nobody in their right mind wants that!!

JimRob: "By telegram, letter, email or phone. Personal visit to his office would be even better. Also, work the primaries. Keep moving the best and the brightest of the young conservative blood up through the local farm teams. Get involved."

I've done that and will continue to do so, sir, but it all-too-often appears to be falling upon deaf ears. Somebody high upon Dubyuh's food chain has fallen in love with this Triangulation strategy and doesn't seem to want to let it go!! All valid threat of the Right abandoning the GOP reelection campaign may be the only thing that wakes these folks up...here's hoping the message gets through on time!!

FReegards...MUD

370 posted on 01/31/2004 11:02:02 AM PST by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: Mudboy Slim
"...but it is very much about sending messages..."

It would have been much easier to send a message if some conservative had challenged Bush in the primaries this year. Like Ashbrook challenged Nixon in '72 and gave him a scare and like Pat Buchanan challenging Bush I in '92.

378 posted on 01/31/2004 12:17:59 PM PST by sultan88 ("I went down Virginia, seeking shelter from the storm...")
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To: Mudboy Slim
" I've done that and will continue to do so, sir, but it all-too-often appears to be falling upon deaf ears. Somebody high upon Dubyuh's food chain has fallen in love with this Triangulation strategy and doesn't seem to want to let it go!! All valid threat of the Right abandoning the GOP reelection campaign may be the only thing that wakes these folks up...here's hoping the message gets through on time!!"

Forget Republicans and Democratic Party affiliations. It's the CFR that is doing it to the American people and is manipulating BOTH parties like puppets on a string. They are the ones advising Bush on policy manking issues; especially concerning amnesty of illegals. We need to investigate them for creating this war and invasion on Americans for it is they who are communizing America with the flooding of illegals. Next step is to disarm Americans but some of us ain't falling for this one.
379 posted on 01/31/2004 12:28:30 PM PST by goldilucky
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To: Mudboy Slim; joanie-f
re #370; of course I agree with you.

But as for my arguing anymore, with anyone, on the subject?
Nope, no more.
I'm done with that. Finished. Fini.

If people cannot -- easy -- *understand* what I, you & many other self described "conservatives" are saying?
-AND/OR-
If I, you, & many other self described "conservatives" aren't quite conservative enough for said people?
-AND/OR-
Said people continue to *invite* those of us -- who've legit, valid concerns over this administration's direction -- to leave the party?

So be it.
Let the chips fall where they may.
Because I'll know who to look to for the blame should this POTUS fail to get himself re-elected, too.

...but *argue* & *fight* with the "people," I won't.

384 posted on 01/31/2004 12:57:42 PM PST by Landru (Tagline Schmagline...)
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To: Mudboy Slim
great post!!!!
385 posted on 01/31/2004 1:00:53 PM PST by FBD (...Please press 2 for English...for Espanol, please stay on the line...)
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To: WOSG
"Excellent Link to Dubyuh's Weekly Radio Address!!"

""To assure that Congress observes spending discipline, now and in the future, I propose making spending limits the law. This simple step would mean that every additional dollar the Congress wants to spend in excess of spending limits must be matched by a dollar in spending cuts elsewhere. Budget limits must mean something, and not just serve as vague guidelines to be routinely violated. This single change in the procedures of the Congress would bring further spending restraint to Washington." -President Bush, 1/30/04

Let's hope Dubyuh makes this a major priority in the upcoming campaign!!

FReegards...MUD

398 posted on 01/31/2004 2:01:01 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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