Poll: Do you trust your elected leaders to make the right decision on immigration issues?

PHXnews ^ | 12/24/03 | PHXnews

[MickeysHangover]

Here's a poll I saw that I know most of you would be interested in.

"Do you trust your elected leaders to make the right decision on immigration issues?"

YES

NO

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When it comes to immigration, it seems that our leaders are always trying to cater to the hispanic vote.

Now, we discover that Bush and McCain are working on a master immigration plan just in time for the next election.

I'm curious to see where you stand on this issue of trust.

Thx and Merry Christmas.

Can I still say that on this web site? :)

[SBell]

The immigrant from Mexico isn't voting for Republicans ---- the entire border area is going more and more to the democrats.

Certainly. I'm thinking of the 50 or so Texas "Mexicrats" that fled the state and shut down the Texas House. If you look at a list of those Dems who fled the state it reads like a Mexican phone book...and they shut down the Texas government. It's bizarre.

I assume your solution is to do the right thing and damn the torpedoes. I don't totally disagree. Blacks in this country have been totally brainwashed (last election I had black friends tell me that Republicans were literally going to put them in chains...no joke), they voted 90% Dim and it didn't matter.

It's still too close for comfort. It still blows my mind that Bush won with less than the popular vote. He could sweep '04 or it could be a nail-biter. Pissing off Hispanics is a dangerous prospect.

[Dan Evans]

Maybe the "Republicans" are no longer conservatives. How else can you explain this "Pill Bill" -- the huge increase in Medicare entitlements. Maybe what we are looking at with this pandering to illegals is a huge bidding war between the Democrats and Republicans for Hispanic votes.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

...assume your solution is to do the right thing and damn the torpedoes....

Works for me. He'll lose more votes than he wins with open borders and amnesty.

[texastoo]

Some of the Hispanics that I convinced to vote for Bush in 2000 have already said they are going to vote Dem. the next election. The reason is the Medicare Bill. They don't think it is good enough and the Democrats will give more benefits. They don't think their parents should have to pay the $35/mo. plus $250 for pills.

[RightWhale]

97% no

3% yes

no one undecided

[SBell]

There doesn't have to be a "harsh" crackdown...

I know what you mean. There's no excuse for neglecting border troops. For that matter, there's no excuse for not putting the military on the border. When I was stationed at Fort Huachuca I got used to the radar balloons overhead...I think they call that aerostat radar. If it were up to me, I would expand that program and set up a string of machine gun nests, but that's just me...

[sarcasm]

"Do you trust your elected leaders to make the right decision on immigration issues?"

Nope

[Walkin Man]

They should have had a "H*LL NO! choice.

The President wasn't my "man" in the election in the first place because of crap like this and his lousy "free trade" and outsourcing American job policies.

So far I have no dog in the hunt.

[DustyMoment]

"Pissing off Hispanics is a dangerous prospect."

And pissing off Republicans could be a more dangerous prospect. Currently, I'm considering whether or not I want to leave my vote for president blank next fall. I'm growing very disenchanted with Bush and, to be sure, I'm not casting a vote for any of the 9 dwarves.

Bush may be a better choice than any of the dwarves but, IMO, he's not that much of a better choice. Consider the following:
1) TSA
2) Dept. of Homeland Security
3) Steel Tariffs
4) Education Bill
5) Agriculture Bill
6) McCain-Feingold (CFR)
7) Immigration Reform
8) Medicare Reform (unfunded Prescription Drug benefit)
9) Ballooning National Debt

My question is if we dissociated Bush from this list of crappy legislation and associated Clinton with it, would we be outraged? Why does Bush get a pass?

So far, his biggest accomplishments are his tax cuts and the War on Terror. I'm not sure there is an equal balance between those two items and the previous list.

[TheCrusader]

"The border patrol is pathetically understaffed right now."

It doesn't even have to be strictly a border patrol issue, the illegals can be stopped by fining the businesses that employ them and making it unprofitible for them, by tracking down the illegals after they enter and deporting them - which would send a strong message, and by making it impossible for illegals to get drivers licenses, educational benefits and welfare programs. But it all has to begin with somebody at the top giving a hoot. Immigration is good, unchekced illegal immigration is self destructive.

[verity]

The Hangover must be from an excess of Old Buzzzard Breath firewater.

Who do you trust to make the right decisions on immigration issues and would those decisions be legal?

[EGPWS]

When it comes to immigration, it seems that our leaders are always trying to cater to the hispanic any available source for a vote.

Once accomplished then focus on national security issues.

Dubya', as POTUS, at least has put forth a considerable amount of focus, at least, on national security, but the votes are still in the back of his mind.

[Zipporah]

"Dubya', as POTUS, at least has put forth a considerable amount of focus, at least, on national security"

He has has he? Hmm ..consider open borders...

[spodefly]

Do you trust your elected leaders to make the right decision on immigration issues?

(96%)
No

(4%)
Yes

[EGPWS]

1) TSA

2) Dept. of Homeland Security

9)Ballooning National Debt

You can't find fault in these.

TSA is doing a fine job, show where they have faltered in their duties in safety concerns,

DHS, when is the last time that we were attacked? Did I miss it? I have been informed of unsuccessful attempts, but no attacks.

National debt? That's a gimmee, show stat's of previous Presidents in time of war, that cut taxes, and still brought the market up to reasonable levels.

All in all, IMHO, not bad.

[EGPWS]

He has has he? Hmm ..consider open borders...

Perhaps you are a mite bit overzealous with your personal definition of "open".

[spodefly]

"The Juan and Jorge Show"

"Jorge, we screwed 'em with CFR, we'll screw 'em with 12 million illegals. The main thing is to just keep right on screwing 'em no matter what. Comprende, amigo?"

[carenot]

the entire border area is going more and more to the democrats.>P>I have no idea why they would vote for Democrats.
The Republicans are doing more for them.

[EGPWS]

"Jorge, we screwed 'em with CFR, we'll screw 'em with 12 million illegals.

And if THAT doesn't work, we'll screw 'em out of their personal freedoms by "government through totalitarianism". /sarcasm

[Zipporah]

Overzealous..? Let's see..I don't think I'm over reacting at all ...."Government and academic estimates indicate there are nine to eleven million illegal aliens living in the United States.

It is difficult to have an exact figure because the illegal nature of their presence prevents any enumeration, but the U.S. Census Bureau estimated 8.7 million illegal aliens were here in 2000, and immigration officials estimate that the illegal alien population grows by 500,000 every year."

Estimated Distribution of the Illegal Alien Population