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Sorry are you talking about America? It is true that since the recession about 3 million jobs have been lost, but the economy is getting better and jobs will return. It has been an extremely mild recession with unemployment barely rising above 6%. As far as NAFTA being the cause of today's woes I might point out that since NAFTA was signed U.S. employment grew over 20 million between 1993 and 2000. but that would be a waste of time to point this out since I see you have already posted to http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1028661/posts .

Yet you continue to spout distortions and unsupportable tripe. What would be the point in responding to your questions when I can see you have already ignored the answers before.

40% of hispanic immigrants are landing up on welfare programs? Bull Squat. America needs more workers. We are now below 6% unemployment and the economy is ripping and businesses are hiring. Businesses can hire an uneducated mexican worker who dreams of a job and an American public high school educated worker who can't read or write and feels he is owed a job. At least the Mexican was willing to work to get over the border and fight for the job. We've danced around the welfare issue before Fitz. I contend that illegal immigrants make up a very tiny fraction of the Federal and State dole, but they make an attractive scapegoat for "the losers of life's lottery," who are sucking up unemployment, WIC, food stamps, student loans and grants, and disability all while racking up huge credit card debt and declaring bankruptcy. Illegal immigrants don't get on these programs because the fear getting caught and being sent back to Mexico.

"Businesses can hire an uneducated mexican worker who dreams of a job and an American public high school educated worker who can't read or write and feels he is owed a job."

Where does it say in the California Constitution that we OWE illegal aliens jobs? It has always been my understanding that hiring illegals is against the law. Look what happened to Walmart recently where the feds raided it because of a tip that the manager was hiring illegals. If Walmart can be busted, then we can also bust up other companies that are practicing illegal hiring that not only violates the laws of this State but discriminates against legal citizens applying for those same jobs.

We need to go after the managers and owners of companies that are hiring illegals. Like Tyson Foods.

The reason why this state is going bankrupt, is because the illegals have sucked this state dry of funds so bad that it has forced some hospitals to shut down and court to raise their fee just to stay in business.

The Fourteenth Amendment does not apply to illegal aliens. This also applies to them stealing food stamps under an alias name, and selling them on the street for cocaine, as I was tipped off by a Mexican national years ago. This person told me exactly what these illegals do to get into this country. I was told they pay as much as $1,000 to get a fake id to get into this country. When they get here, they immediately go to the SS office and get financial assistance including food stamps. This also includes getting assistance from HUD to get Section 8 housing in nice neighborhoods. As a result of the Section 8, the community starts to fall apart because the illegals kids turn into gang punks that go around shooting up nice neighborhoods and vandalizing from the hardworking American who worked their ass off for 40 years to keep a job.

The giving away of financial assistance, food stamps, housing and jobs is a BIG slap in the face to all Americans and to those who came here LEGALLY.

We Americans aren't paying for this crap anymore. We not paying income tax when we are being discriminated from jobs given to illegals. And yes, it is discrimination BIG TIME against Americans.

300 Illegal Workers Arrested at Wal-Marts
By SUZANNE GAMBOA

WASHINGTON (AP) - Federal officials arrested more than 300 illegal workers at 60 Wal-Mart stores across the country early Thursday morning and searched the office of one of the retail chain's corporate executives, a federal official said.

Several law enforcement sources who spoke on condition of anonymity said the investigation grew out of earlier probes of Wal-Mart cleaning crew contractors in 1998 and 2001. Based on recordings of meetings and conversations among Wal-Mart executives, managers and contractors, the law enforcement officials said ``various immigration violations had continued to occur with direct knowledge by the Wal-Mart corporation.''

The workers, members of cleaning crews that the company hired through contractors, were arrested as they finished their night shifts at stores in 21 states. All were in the country illegally, according to Garrison Courtney, a spokesman with Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

Wal-Mart Stores Inc., based in Bentonville, Ark., is the world's largest retailer.
Wal-Mart spokeswoman Mona Williams said the company got wind of the raids when store managers started calling headquarters Thursday morning.
``They arrested a number of members of the floor cleaning crews. They are (employed by) outside contractors; they're not Wal-Mart associates,'' Williams said.
She said the company uses more than 100 third-party contractors for cleaning services in more than 700 stores in the United States. ``We require each of these contractors to use only legal workers,'' she said.
Many of the workers said they were Eastern European and a few were of other ethnicities, Courtney said.
The arrests stem from a November 1998 investigation done in conjunction with the Pennsylvania attorney general's office. That investigation also targeted contractors and subcontractors used by Wal-Mart to clean stores.
Employers are required to check forms known as I-9's, filled out by every new employee, and keep the forms for a specified period of time. An employer can face civil and criminal penalties for knowingly hiring illegal immigrants or failing to comply with the I-9 regulations.
Courtney also said officials searched the office of one of Wal-Mart's executives. Williams could not say whether agents conducted a search at the headquarters and said she did not know of any other Wal-Mart administrative offices where searches may have occurred.
``We are currently trying to understand the scope and detail of the investigation. We are talking to (ICE) and are committed to cooperating with them,'' Williams said. She was unsure how many contractors might be involved.
The workers arrested were detained at local immigration offices, Courtney said. If they had no previous criminal record, they were released with notices to appear before immigration judges.
The states where arrests were made are Alabama, Arkansas, Arizona, Connecticut, Delaware, Kentucky, Massachusetts, Maryland, Michigan, North Carolina, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia and West Virginia.
Wal-Mart has 1,494 discount stores, 1,386 Supercenters, 532 Sam's Clubs and 56 Neighborhood Markets in the United States. The company has about 1.1 million employees in the United States and 300,000 in other countries. Wal-Mart had sales last year of $244.5 billion.

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