To: tpaine; going hot
Men need no 'authorities' to establish our rights, Bondserv.. A bigger Gun always establishes rights.
Unless of course a people acknowledge a superior being whose truth's transcend any man's ideas of right and wrong.
Ala the United States Founding Fathers!
Many wish to change this with faulty logic and TORT lawyering from the NYU School of Law.
57 posted on
12/25/2003 7:50:24 PM PST by
bondserv
(Alignment is critical.)
To: tpaine; going hot; ASA Vet
Submission to one stronger than us does not take real humility.(Islam) It can be very practical to acknowledge someones power through fear. Humility takes recognition that the One in authority over you is a superior being. We have personal knowledge of Jesus Christ, once knowing Him, humility becomes a choice. Unalienable rights. True equality, because His judgements are righteous and true. USA, one nation under the God of our founding fathers who is quite different than the imports. Freedom.
He is worthy of our worship, by filtering all of our thoughts and deeds through His love and wisdom.
58 posted on
12/25/2003 8:51:42 PM PST by
bondserv
(Alignment is critical.)
To: bondserv
Those words of our DOI parse just as well, and mean the same, if we eliminate the references to creators:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are equal, that they are endowed with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
Men need no 'authorities' to establish our rights, Bondserv..
-- In effect, as Going Hot observes, -- our self-evident rights are established by being willing to die for them.
50 -tpaine-
bondserv wrote:
A bigger Gun always establishes rights.
Unless of course a people acknowledge a superior being whose truth's transcend any man's ideas of right and wrong.
Ala the United States Founding Fathers!
Many wish to change this with faulty logic and TORT lawyering from the NYU School of Law.
Nope, you have it backwards:
Acknowledging 'the authority' of superior beings "whose truth's transcend any man's ideas of right and wrong" only encourage some men to grant themseves such godlike powers. -- Such -- 'authorities', in using a bigger gun, only violate our rights in bigger ways.
60 posted on
12/25/2003 9:09:17 PM PST by
tpaine
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