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To: Cronos
Christianity has much to thank all peoples of Christ for...at some point all helped.

But what is more interesting is not Viena but what leads up to Viena and how other such events take place. Here is the hand of God...all know that the 2 historic worst winters of Europe were in Napoleons (an atheist) invasion and Hitler's invasions of Russia...if either had won, Christiandom on the long run would have suffered horrably.

Viena was another such event. It was not the Poles who saved Viena, the Poles simply finished off what is left of the Turks, who had already failed to take Viena for lack of heavy artillery and they lack camels to carry much supplies and many Janesaries down with fever...but why? The reason is this: the Turks gather giant army in SE Balkins, with many heavy cannons and lots of camels for supplies...but one month before they go begin unnatural, unseasonal rains...so much so that camels get rot, roads to muddy for heavy load of the cannons and many troops become sick...the Turks try regardless.

This once more shows how the Hand of God does not act in necessity directly as a slap to the face, but through other forces of nature herself...his creation...to beat down the enemy.

120 posted on 08/15/2004 3:13:42 PM PDT by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: RussianConservative
This once more shows how the Hand of God does not act in necessity directly as a slap to the face, but through other forces of nature herself...his creation...to beat down the enemy.

Thanks! I did not know about that -- I knew about Novgorad. However, that does bring up a point of failure on our part -- we should have converted the Mongols and Turks to Christianity -- imagine what a force that could have been directed againstIslam!
122 posted on 08/15/2004 10:51:52 PM PDT by Cronos (W2K4!)
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