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Posted on 12/23/2003 7:42:00 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: ContemptofCourt
The blind defenses of Rush have to do with the fact that people can't divorce this from politics and left vs. right and understand that it's a matter of criminal law and that the likelihood is growing stronger that Rush Limbaugh violated criminal law. The libertarians can scream about "the war on drugs" all they want to, the fact remains that the laws are what they are right now, and as such we as citizens of a civilized society are obliged to obey them until such time as they are changed.
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posted on
12/23/2003 10:37:09 AM PST
by
GB
To: JackRyanCIA
LOL...you should see my license plate.....
To: Labyrinthos
Good analysis. And again, I challenge any of the blind defenders of Rush, who see this as only political, to look me in the eye as best you can via cyberspace and tell me with a straight face that if it were Hillary Clinton sitting in the exact same predicament that Rush is in now, you wouldn't be waving pitchforks and torches and screaming "burn the witch!"
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posted on
12/23/2003 10:39:07 AM PST
by
GB
To: Labyrinthos
Please understand something: I was not commenting on this particular case when I posted that -- I was making a general statement about the legitimacy of a "everybody else gets away with it" defense in the U.S. legal system.
And of course there is BillyBoyClinton, claiming that no one is ever prosecuted for lying about sex even if under oath. That's a pretty fair statement given the number of people who lie under oath or the penalties of perjury and the relatively few prosecutions that result. Nevertheless, Clinton lied under oath, the crime is perjury, and the Feds have the right to prosecute even the most people who lie under oath are never prosecuted.
Actually, you're wrong about this. One of the most astute observations about Clinton's impeachment came from a New York talk radio host who was actually a Clinton supporter. He was discussing the whole impeachment episode with a guest right around this time of year in 1998 (after Clinton had formally been impeached), and the guest commented that as of October 1998 he really didn't think it would ever happen.
"As of October, it never would have happened," the host said.
"What changed since then that led to this impeachment, then?" he was asked.
"What changed this thing completely was when they brought all those people to testify before the House committee -- those people who had all been prosecuted for perjury in civil cases involving consensual sex. You know, those people who had been prosecuted for things that 'nobody ever gets prosecuted for.'"
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posted on
12/23/2003 10:40:02 AM PST
by
Alberta's Child
(Alberta -- the TRUE North strong and free.)
To: Alberta's Child
Roy Black is not the type of attorney to do that type of manure.
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To: Golden Buffalo
I love Rush. I listened to him THE VERY FIRST DAY he was on the air nationally. He's done the Lord's work for our cause.
However, Rush has always struck me, again since day 1, as being somewhat of an egomaniac. That doesn't make him a bad person. I'm not the most humble individual myself (ask the Mrs.). The thing is, as I stated in another post, the end game of this situation if Rush really wants to make it go away ASAP is going to involve more public humiliation and embarrassment for him and a good measure of groveling before folks, including some folks that he probably despises.
I don't think my ego would allow me to do that, even with dire consequences staring me in the face, unless someone had a metaphorical pistol with the hammer cocked pointed at my head and/or my arm twisted behind me in a hammerlock. Lord knows what it would take to get Rush to capitulate.
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posted on
12/23/2003 10:44:46 AM PST
by
GB
To: Howlin
I'm glad you said that; I was sitting here wondering what I was missing; I am a court reporter and I've sat through 20 years of doctors thumbing through patient records and reading them into the record; heck, I've got 100s of copies of VIDEOS of them doing just that downstairs in the office! Most of those are personal injury, but if those can be subpoenaed, then surely they can be for a criminal case.
Exactly right.
These "jailhouse lawyers" are foolish and tiresome
To: longtermmemmory
So far, nobody has mentioned blackmail except Roy Black.
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posted on
12/23/2003 10:45:13 AM PST
by
Howlin
(Bush has stolen two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
To: longtermmemmory
Roy Black is not the type of attorney to do that type of manure. You cannot possibly be serious!
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posted on
12/23/2003 10:45:57 AM PST
by
Howlin
(Bush has stolen two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
To: GB
It is both. Keep in mind, there has been no arrest. Which is why this is suspect. If they arrested rush FIRST as part of a sting and had caught him red handed THEN they could subpoena the records incident to the arrest. As it stands now, they had to have an evidentiary hearing as to why these records should be disclosed.
I still say the SA is trying to put together circumstantial evidence to have rush holding a specific quantity.
To: longtermmemmory
Give me a break, like any high-powered legal gun Roy Black will do whatever it takes, hook or crook, to help his client. And I'd fire him if he wouldn't, if he were my lawyer.
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posted on
12/23/2003 10:47:09 AM PST
by
GB
To: PBRSTREETGANG
What an odd statement. They're his MEDICAL records. What if they say he's impotent? What if they say he only has a year to live? What if they refer to a family history of mental illness?What if they show he was telling several doctors that they were the only physician he was seeing in order to get overlapping prescriptions of scheduled narcotics?
Ruh-roh!
To: longtermmemmory
Roy Black, if my memory serves me correctly, was a Clinton defender/talking head during the impeachment.
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posted on
12/23/2003 10:48:34 AM PST
by
Catspaw
To: Alberta's Child
"What changed this thing completely was when they brought all those people to testify before the House committee -- those people who had all been prosecuted for perjury in civil cases involving consensual sex. You know, those people who had been prosecuted for things that 'nobody ever gets prosecuted for.'"Thanks for the clarification, which is why Rush really needs to grow up, because just like with Clintoon, people will step forward to talk about how they were prosecuted for equal or even less serious drug crimes then what Rush may be charged with. I heard him say something earlier in the show today about sports stars and hollyweird celebs who would never be prosecuted for the same thing. Rush might want to talk to Morton Downy and Derryl Strawberry who were prosecuted for possessing small amounts of cocaine, which in the eyes of the law and under sentencing guidelines is no more serious a crime than what Rushbo could get charged with.
To: SeeRushToldU_So
I predict this case will be THROWN OUT precisely because of this illegal search of the medical records.
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posted on
12/23/2003 10:48:50 AM PST
by
PJ-Comix
(Saddam Hussein was only 537 Florida votes away from still being in power)
To: PJ-Comix
How is this illegal?
To: PJ-Comix
If the judge okays it, its not illegal.
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posted on
12/23/2003 10:51:17 AM PST
by
Wolfie
To: GB
You are wrong regarding disobeying a court order. Roy Black is paid to do a job correctly. He can't do his job if he is in jail. Remember F. Lee Baily? He was booting out of florida for shenanigans with the court AND he spent time in jail for contempt.
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