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1 posted on 12/21/2003 7:13:15 PM PST by UnklGene
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To: UnklGene
I bet this will be as reproducible as cold fusion.
2 posted on 12/21/2003 7:17:36 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: UnklGene
Entropy sucks. But not like it used to.
3 posted on 12/21/2003 7:17:38 PM PST by DarthFuzball ("Life is full of little surprises." - Pandora)
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To: UnklGene
I'd like to see a few other people repeat the experiment.
4 posted on 12/21/2003 7:18:31 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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They'll take away my Second Law of Thermodynamics

from my cold, dead fingers!

5 posted on 12/21/2003 7:19:45 PM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: UnklGene
Let me know when somebody gets a bowling ball to roll up a hill...
6 posted on 12/21/2003 7:20:09 PM PST by greenwolf
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To: UnklGene
"The researchers discovered that in such a tiny system, entropy can sometimes decrease rather than increase. "

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If they can prove this, the consequences can be remarkable.

8 posted on 12/21/2003 7:22:31 PM PST by FairOpinion
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Ping
9 posted on 12/21/2003 7:23:04 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: UnklGene
"Beads of Doubt: Second Law of Thermodynamics Untrue?"

I KNEW It ! I didn't flunk that test after all !
10 posted on 12/21/2003 7:25:26 PM PST by RS
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"Beads of Doubt: Second Law of Thermodynamics Untrue?"

I KNEW It ! I didn't flunk that test after all !
11 posted on 12/21/2003 7:25:55 PM PST by RS
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Human beings decrease the entropy of the universe.

(steely)

14 posted on 12/21/2003 7:34:04 PM PST by Steely Tom
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i always thought the contradiction bewteen evolution and entropy was a hoot...no matter how much sophistry academia spews to whitewash it, one argues against the other.
15 posted on 12/21/2003 7:37:33 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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This effect was seen when the researchers looked at the bead's behaviour for a tenth of a second. Any longer and the effect was lost.

The second law is the turtle.

21 posted on 12/21/2003 7:43:30 PM PST by jwalsh07
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Does this make it more likely that Hell *CAN* freeze over?
28 posted on 12/21/2003 7:50:30 PM PST by John Beresford Tipton
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The Second Law states that the entropy - or disorder - of a closed system always increases.

/Later/

The container holding the beads was then moved from side to side a thousand times a second so that the trapped bead would be dragged first one way and then the other.

The researchers discovered that in such a tiny system, entropy can sometimes decrease rather than increase.

THAT'S NOT A CLOSED SYSTEM! It is having energy input into it via the shaking mechanism. In fact, it is having substantial energy put into it. Motion is kinetic energy.

29 posted on 12/21/2003 7:50:36 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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>>So much so that there is a common adage that if anyone has a theory that violates the Second Law then, without any discussion, that theory must certainly be wrong.<<

Funny how this knowledge has never hindered the teaching of the theory of biological evolution, a theory where biological systems supposedly ignore entropy. Everything else in our existence rusts, corrodes, decays, spoils, ruins, declines, or falls apart, but life somehow has evolved from the simplistic (a single cell) to the complex (an organism). Go figure.

Muleteam1

31 posted on 12/21/2003 7:51:53 PM PST by Muleteam1
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The article conveniently forgets to state the rest of the 2nd Law: Without an input of energy everything reverts to its' lowest energy state.

I fail to see from this experiment how they've disproved the law at all. They added energy to the system.

34 posted on 12/21/2003 7:56:13 PM PST by 11B3 (Liberalism is merely another form of mental retardation.)
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I had my doubts about those beads, but when she started pulling them out, it was THERMODYNAMIC for sure~!

Reversed my sense of direction for weeks.
35 posted on 12/21/2003 7:58:21 PM PST by tet68
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I had a very small car that ran better backwards when going uphill.
37 posted on 12/21/2003 8:00:19 PM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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So for very short periods of time, time can run backwards. Wouldn't that make any period containing some of those instants seem longer?

Now that I think about it, I have been in closed conference rooms where this happened. The guy kept droning on and on, and I kept having the sensation that I'd heard it all before. Whoa! Maybe I had! This explains why a meeting that only took an hour seemed like days.

41 posted on 12/21/2003 8:02:45 PM PST by Nick Danger (With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.)
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Sh*t; it's still two months to Groundhog Day.
52 posted on 12/21/2003 8:16:56 PM PST by Old Professer
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