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Beads of Doubt: Second Law of Thermodynamics Untrue? -
BBC - UK ^ | December 18, 2003 | Dr David Whitehouse

Posted on 12/21/2003 7:13:14 PM PST by UnklGene

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1 posted on 12/21/2003 7:13:15 PM PST by UnklGene
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To: UnklGene
I bet this will be as reproducible as cold fusion.
2 posted on 12/21/2003 7:17:36 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: UnklGene
Entropy sucks. But not like it used to.
3 posted on 12/21/2003 7:17:38 PM PST by DarthFuzball ("Life is full of little surprises." - Pandora)
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To: UnklGene
I'd like to see a few other people repeat the experiment.
4 posted on 12/21/2003 7:18:31 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: UnklGene
They'll take away my Second Law of Thermodynamics

from my cold, dead fingers!

5 posted on 12/21/2003 7:19:45 PM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: UnklGene
Let me know when somebody gets a bowling ball to roll up a hill...
6 posted on 12/21/2003 7:20:09 PM PST by greenwolf
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
So there. I'm not cleanig my house any more.
7 posted on 12/21/2003 7:22:10 PM PST by meowmeow
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To: UnklGene
"The researchers discovered that in such a tiny system, entropy can sometimes decrease rather than increase. "

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If they can prove this, the consequences can be remarkable.

8 posted on 12/21/2003 7:22:31 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Physicist
Ping
9 posted on 12/21/2003 7:23:04 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: UnklGene
"Beads of Doubt: Second Law of Thermodynamics Untrue?"

I KNEW It ! I didn't flunk that test after all !
10 posted on 12/21/2003 7:25:26 PM PST by RS
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To: UnklGene
"Beads of Doubt: Second Law of Thermodynamics Untrue?"

I KNEW It ! I didn't flunk that test after all !
11 posted on 12/21/2003 7:25:55 PM PST by RS
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To: FairOpinion
Someone needs to ping Prigogine with this one.
12 posted on 12/21/2003 7:28:18 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: FairOpinion
This is a point I've been trying to make for a long time.
13 posted on 12/21/2003 7:32:03 PM PST by JusPasenThru (Reasoning with a man is futlile when his opinions were not reached by reason in the first place.)
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To: UnklGene
Human beings decrease the entropy of the universe.

(steely)

14 posted on 12/21/2003 7:34:04 PM PST by Steely Tom
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To: UnklGene
i always thought the contradiction bewteen evolution and entropy was a hoot...no matter how much sophistry academia spews to whitewash it, one argues against the other.
15 posted on 12/21/2003 7:37:33 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: FairOpinion
Eh, to be really technical, I don't know if I totally agree with the headline to the article.

Einstein didn't show Newton's laws to be "untrue" really...99.999% of the time Newton's laws are fine, and we went to the moon with them, etc. Newton wasn't "wrong."

This would really be a small-scale quantum violation of the 2nd Law, I guess. Broadly, the 2nd Law remains true.
16 posted on 12/21/2003 7:39:09 PM PST by John H K
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To: FairOpinion
IF it can be proven conclusively, it's as significant, if not more, than the discovery of theory of relativity.

If the 2nd law of termodynamics isn't true, than all of a sudden a lot of things, which we thought impossible, because they violated the 2nd law of termodynamics, now can become possible.
17 posted on 12/21/2003 7:39:20 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: the invisib1e hand
i always thought the contradiction bewteen evolution and entropy was a hoot...no matter how much sophistry academia spews to whitewash it, one argues against the other.

The "hoot" is how moronic creationidiots who understand neither the 2nd law or evolution continually trot out the tired old canard that evolution violates the Second Law of Thermodynamics. It does not.

Helpful hint: The earth IS NOT A CLOSED SYSTEM.

18 posted on 12/21/2003 7:41:22 PM PST by John H K
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To: Steely Tom
Couldn't you apply that to all life, as life tends to strive for ordering its environment that contacts it, for a time suspending the 2nd law perhaps.
19 posted on 12/21/2003 7:42:38 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; sourcery
ping
20 posted on 12/21/2003 7:43:15 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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