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To: LS
The Christmas tree originated in Sweden several hundred years ago as a symbol of Christ's enduring love (the greenness) when all around us is dying. Indeed, the triangular shape of the evergreen was symbolic to these Christians of the Trinity.

Plus, there is this:

Hsa 14:8 Ephraim [shall say], What have I to do any more with idols? I have heard [him], and observed him: I [am] like a green fir tree. From me is thy fruit found.

Reading the rest of Hosea 14 shows that God was saying He Himself was a fir tree.

And earlier on FR we have seen an article that showed that the Romans "stole" the December 25 date from Christians long after Christians had been celebrating it as the presumed birthdate of Jesus, contrary to the myth that later Christians took a "pagan" holiday and grafted it in their practices.

The bible says that John the Baptist was concieved on June 25 and here's how:

Luk 1:5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife [was] of the daughters of Aaron, and her name [was] Elisabeth.

The Course of Abia went from June 13 - June 19.

Luk 1:23 And it came to pass, that, as soon as the days of his ministration were accomplished, he departed to his own house.

Luk 1:24 And after those days his wife Elisabeth conceived, and hid herself five months, saying,

So we have Zacharias walking thirty miles to his home and he was an old man and couldn't walk on the Sabbath so he would've arrived home on June 22 or 23 with the conception on June 25. Then we have this:

Luk 1:26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,

Luk 1:27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name [was] Mary.

Luk 1:28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, [thou that art] highly favoured, the Lord [is] with thee: blessed [art] thou among women.

Luk 1:36 And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren.

Luk 1:37 For with God nothing shall be impossible.

Luk 1:38 And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.

Luk 1:39 And Mary arose in those days, and went into the hill country with haste, into a city of Juda;

Luk 1:40 And entered into the house of Zacharias, and saluted Elisabeth.

Luk 1:41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:

So six months after June 25 is December 25 for the Immaculate Conception. So the birth would've taken place in late September and was probably on September 29 (September being the birthmonth of Kings) figuring it by history through Augustus decree and the fact there was no room at the inn due to the Feast of Tabernacles celebration.

106 posted on 12/22/2003 12:43:44 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
Cool. Thanks!
114 posted on 12/22/2003 6:08:01 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrack of news.)
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To: #3Fan
... Immaculate Conception ...

Figured I'd throw in a bit of fun -- "Immaculate Conception" refers not to Jesus' being born without sin by a virgin, but to Mary's supposedly being born without sin. That's according to Roman Catholic doctrine....

131 posted on 12/22/2003 9:45:33 AM PST by Theo
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